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Yeh im realy sorry im not the best at putting things into kind words. Im just being honest though.

As a appraction and for understanding me i would like to offer "blitz" to clean your system out (for free) PM and ill send you some free of charge and you can let people know what you think. Im not the best communicator at times how ever i do mean well to users. Just sick of some companies who don't do a good job and yeh them rads are cheap and well this is the hidden reason why.. Its taken me 5 months of hard work and testing to finding out issues like these and making a product that does the job to fix these issues.

The thing is more of these posts will appear because people are buying said cheap rads and wondering why red turns purple, white turns slight blue, black becomes brown with all makers of coolant. Flushing a rad has always been a important part of water cooling how ever when a cheap unclean rad hits the market its made worse because there is no information inside the packing advising of said situation.
Edited by Mayhem - 4/2/14 at 2:57am
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Yeh im realy sorry im not the best at putting things into kind words. Im just being honest though.

As a appraction and for understanding me i would like to offer "blitz" to clean your system out (for free) PM and ill send you some free of charge and you can let people know what you think. Im not the best communicator at times how ever i do mean well to users. Just sick of some companies who don't do a good job and yeh them rads are cheap and well this is the hidden reason why.. Its taken me 5 months of hard work and testing to finding out issues like these and making a product that does the job to fix these issues.

The thing is more of these posts will appear because people are buying said cheap rads and wondering why red turns purple, white turns slight blue, black becomes brown with all makers of coolant. Flushing a rad has always been a important part of water cooling how ever when a cheap unclean rad hits the market its made worse because there is no information inside the packing advising of said situation.


Thanks I appreciate it. I can tell that you are passionate about making a quality product and I respect that, cheers for all your help
post #13 of 21
The quality of the alphacool rads is cheap but unfortunately the price tag isn't frown.gif I had to get mine cleaner than a microprocessor manufacturing plant before it stopped screwing up my mayhems dye, definitely was the rads and not the dye.
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The quality of the alphacool rads is cheap but unfortunately the price tag isn't frown.gif I had to get mine cleaner than a microprocessor manufacturing plant before it stopped screwing up my mayhems dye, definitely was the rads and not the dye.

I cant believe I didn't stumble across this in the forums before I chose my rads if I had known I wouldn't have bought them, or paid more attention to cleaning them out. I thought rinsing them 5 or 6 times with cold/hot pure water would do the job. However you learn something new everyday and this is my first build.

You are right they definitely aren't cheap, it just goes to show that price doesn't mean quality (but we already knew that). I genuinely thought I wasn't cutting corners when I made the choice

Big shout out to Mick (Mayhems) though, his passion definitely comes across in bucket loads, I respect that
post #15 of 21
Flux in the rads from solder is the culprit if I'm not mistaken. Usual cure is lemon juice+water, then a bicarb flush, looks like Micks got you covered though with the new cleaning system. I'm sure something made to clean liquid cooling parts will work better than a homebrew cure. biggrin.gif

Alphacool needs to do a better job on cleaning their flux capacitors.
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This was in the bottom of my filter after flushing out two UT60 480 alphacool rads. Flushed them for 8 hours each. Gives you a pretty good idea of what can be living in them when they come from the factory.
post #17 of 21
If alpha cool followed say XSPC train of thought they actually clean them via ultrasonic before painting them. (so i was by xspc themselves)
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If alpha cool followed say XSPC train of thought they actually clean them via ultrasonic before painting them. (so i was by xspc themselves)

So weird, because my XSPC RX360 had HUGE chunks of brownish-blackish tar-like junk come out of it. Even after 10 times of filling halfway with near boiling water and shaking them I was still pouring really nasty looking stuff out of them. A lot of the pieces were 10mm or more. I was told it was probably 'flux'. I was using distilled water and went through 3 gallons and still was having lots of stuff come out emptying into a white bowl every time so I could inspect what came out.. In comparison my Alphacool rads had some very minor metallic sediment/solder-looking debris come out on the first flush or two and then squeaky clean after that.
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So weird, because my XSPC RX360 had HUGE chunks of brownish-blackish tar-like junk come out of it. Even after 10 times of filling halfway with near boiling water and shaking them I was still pouring really nasty looking stuff out of them. A lot of the pieces were 10mm or more. I was told it was probably 'flux'. I was using distilled water and went through 3 gallons and still was having lots of stuff come out emptying into a white bowl every time so I could inspect what came out.. In comparison my Alphacool rads had some very minor metallic sediment/solder-looking debris come out on the first flush or two and then squeaky clean after that.

How on earth did you get 10mm chunks of crap out of your rad; the G1/4" thread is only 6.35mm in diameter? No way large chunks would be flux buildup, my bet is solder. Anyways, ultrasonic cleaning uses roughly 20 to 400 kilohertz ultrasound through something submerged in or filled with liquid which gets any particles which have scaled onto the sides to fall off and suspend themselves in the liquid. This would only get things like flux, plasticizers, or any other crap that was literally stuck to the rad. Good for cleaning out contaminants, not so much for cleaning debris. Anyways, I think he points out ultrasonic cleaning because it's going to get rid of any crap that might imbalance the pH or contaminate the water. Some chunks of metal probably wouldn't harm the coolant much, but the same can't be said for aforementioned chunks of metal clogging the loop or tearing up your pump.
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How on earth did you get 10mm chunks of crap out of your rad; the G1/4" thread is only 6.35mm in diameter? No way large chunks would be flux buildup, my bet is solder. Anyways, ultrasonic cleaning uses roughly 20 to 400 kilohertz ultrasound through something submerged in or filled with liquid which gets any particles which have scaled onto the sides to fall off and suspend themselves in the liquid. This would only get things like flux, plasticizers, or any other crap that was literally stuck to the rad. Good for cleaning out contaminants, not so much for cleaning debris. Anyways, I think he points out ultrasonic cleaning because it's going to get rid of any crap that might imbalance the pH or contaminate the water. Some chunks of metal probably wouldn't harm the coolant much, but the same can't be said for aforementioned chunks of metal clogging the loop or tearing up your pump.

They weren't perfectly round, and they weren't solid. Most, especially the biggest globs were long slimy tar-like pieces, and some of those were big enough they didn't just pour out of the ports all that easy. I helped pull some of the junk out with my fingers and whatever it was stained my fingers brown.
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