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For a chip that uses a lot less power Jaguar isn't that bad at all, however I feel clock speeds are a little low though Bay Trail Z3740D isn't that much faster and seems adequate for normal use (though Bay Trail IPC is much higher than AMD's A4 chips).

Edit: On second thought I think the Atom and Temash chips are roughly equal in IPC, which is what Intel were touting when they released Bay Trail.
Edited by Liranan - 4/2/14 at 4:16am
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Give me a 4 core Jag with GCN on side in a tablet, that doesn't look shabby, 4< GB's of RAM, 6-7+hrs of battery time, choice for multiple SSD sizes (rather than just 32/64 GB's) and has a proper display (i.e. at least 1080p).
I'd be buying one for sure. Hell, might replace my aging Llano laptop, even though it's much stronger hardware-wise.
    
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Give me a 4 core Jag with GCN on side in a tablet, that doesn't look shabby, 4< GB's of RAM, 6-7+hrs of battery time, choice for multiple SSD sizes (rather than just 32/64 GB's) and has a proper display (i.e. at least 1080p).
I'd be buying one for sure. Hell, might replace my aging Llano laptop, even though it's much stronger hardware-wise.

 

Want a milkshake with all that? :lachen:

   
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Want a milkshake with all that? lachen.gif
Heck yeah thumb.gif

Though we all know from previous experience that it isn't going to happen. OEM's will drop these in little, plastic 11'6/13" notebooks with 2GB RAM, 320GB's HDD's and a screen size of 768p. Damn them.
    
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Here's my post on the subject from a year ago:
http://www.overclock.net/t/1364086/sweclockers-amd-temash-apu-a6-1450-in-cinebench-r11-5/30#post_19371626

1.425 seems pretty low for a 3GHz A64 X2, but my experience is with S939 Opterons...I skipped AM2/AM2+ entirely. Still, we can assume that Cinebench IPC is a wash between the two architectures.

However, if we look at 7-zip results (http://www.7-cpu.com/) we can see that decompression scales almost linearly with core counts and can infer that a K8 has a ~16% IPC advantage over Jaguar in LZMA.

It is rather difficult to compare the two in detail when my remaining K8 parts lack boards and I have no Jaguar hardware of my own. Most K8 benches (including most of my saved results) are with ten years old programs at this point.

Maybe I'll dust off some of my old parts and buy a 400 dollar A4-5000 notebook...
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For a chip that uses a lot less power Jaguar isn't that bad at all, however I feel clock speeds are a little low though

Hard to have both low power and high clock speeds as performance per watt sees rapidly diminishing returns with higher clocks.
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I'm using A4-5000 right now actually, I grabbed x140e Thinkpad, dual booting Linux and Windows 7 on it.

It plays LoL on low 80fps when it's slow and 30fps at worst.

I had the chance to play with my friend's SB i7 notebook last week. Naturally, I compared Gentoo Blender on AMD to Windows Blender on Intel.

I was awfully surprised, it took A4-5000 about 13 minutes to complete the BMW benchmark and the i7 around 7:15 to complete the same one. Jaguar having AVX and stuff really makes a massive difference and it makes things very competitive.

Specially when I watched the frequency of the Intel chip, because I never trust what the box says. So, of course the box says it's a 2ghz chip yet it can run Blender rendering for an hour straight and never go below 2.4ghz under load and average 2.5ghz. Not bad considering A4-5000 holds 1.5ghz steady.

If anyone else ever wants to see some Jaguar benchmarks let me know. I plan on doing a little something for it in about a month and a half on a website but for now I can just tease a little.
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Picked one up today because I ran over my Lumia 810 with my moped and it did not survive. It is the sweetness.
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Hard to have both low power and high clock speeds as performance per watt sees rapidly diminishing returns with higher clocks.

Yes I understand, the point is as long as the performance is good enough to surf the net, write a few documents, view or make a PPT and not see the chip slow to a crawl. As long as it can achieve these things it's excellent.

Sadly there are too few AMD tablets around and I don't want to buy an Intel one.
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If anyone else ever wants to see some Jaguar benchmarks let me know. I plan on doing a little something for it in about a month and a half on a website but for now I can just tease a little.

Would love to see some benchmarks, especially if they can be compared with Bay Trail.
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Yes I understand, the point is as long as the performance is good enough to surf the net, write a few documents, view or make a PPT and not see the chip slow to a crawl. As long as it can achieve these things it's excellent.

Sadly there are too few AMD tablets around and I don't want to buy an Intel one.
I am with you on that.
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