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I'm not saying that it doesn't. I'm saying that, with the way I use Windows 7, I haven't seen that happen.

It was one of those phrases that requires sound to be interpreted properly lol.
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Speak for yourself, after being a long time win 7 user I went to win 8 without a hitch and then win 8.1 without a hitch as well. Its a rock solid OS, boots faster than win 7 and is snappier overall. Keep in mind I use my PC primarily for gaming and everything is running great, there is nothing "beta" at all about win 8.1.

I'm mainly speaking from the experience I've had with it in an enterprise environment; there are many issues I've had to sort with 8, 8.1, 2012 and 2012 R2 machines that shouldn't have even existed and have cost the company money and reputation. Our developers have had just as much fun trying to support it. 8.1 under the hood is a Frankenstein of old and new, most of the new stuff isn't replacing old stuff, it's just sorta bolted on to the side and there's loads stuff that doesn't work any more with loads of redundancies left in because it seems they can't identify what parts are needed and what parts aren't. Then there's Windows Embedded 8.1, rather than being able to build up the Windows OS piece by piece only including what you need so you can actually use it for embedded applications, they had so many problems trying to get anything to work properly that instead they've just grabbed a full copy of 8.1, added the word Embedded and shoved it out the door; we are physically unable to use it in many scenarios.

Other than that I also use 8.1, I agree that it is snappier, boots faster and everything does seem to be running great.. but try telling the director of the multinational group of companies you work for why his netbook that came with 8 thinks his keyboard is US even though everything is set and forced to UK.
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I installed Windows 8 in October 2012. I had an early license from college. I likes it but ran into some problems with some software. One thing that I hated about Windows 8 is installing unsigned drivers. It's a time consuming process to just install one driver and you have to repeat the process every time after reboot.

After about 4 months I did a clean install of Windows 7 and was happy. Yes windows 8 does feel snappier and a good reason may be due to unpacked cores being disabled by default. Anyway, I'm getting some new hardest on Tuesday which includes a 1 TB SSD so I may just try windows 8.1 and hope for the best.


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Well, Windows 8.1 isn't so bad after all. It could be better, but it's not bad. I'm using the 90-day Enterprise Evaluation of 8.1.

 

I installed StartIsBack (after researching to find out which one I might like the most) and I installed Gadgets Revived. After that, everything was instantly a lot better. It enabled me to feel comfortable moving forward so that I could get closer to finishing my evaluation. At this point, I'd say that I'm almost done evaluating it and I would say that I wouldn't be able to tolerate Windows 8.1 without StartIsBack and Gadgets Revived.

 

I still have some complaints though: Thumbs.db seems to get randomly deleted in every folder. I found a fix for that (right here), but it's still not perfect. It was perfect at first, but it has degraded into something slightly worse than perfect, but it's still better than what it was before this fix.

 

I also don't like not having the menu bar in File Explorer and being forced to use the Ribbon even though "Always show menus" is enabled in Folder Options.

 

My brain is a bit fried at the moment, so I'm probably forgetting some of my other complaints.

 

There is one thing I noticed though that I do like a lot more than Windows 7: when you want to copy or move files to a location where files or folders will be overwritten, a simple dialog box comes up that enables a single-click to say "yes, overwrite everything" rather than being forced to first click "Do this for all conflicts".

 

Another thing I like is actually something pretty minor: the automatic color changing feature that tries to choose the best color based on the current wallpaper. I have hundreds of wallpapers and I have the transition speed hacked to be 4 seconds and I have the wallpaper change every 30 seconds. What I like about this auto-color change is that I can never decide on a color. One second I want this color, the next second I want that one, then the next second I want this other color, and on and on it goes until I just finally choose a neutral color. lol

 

Oh yeah, and Outlook 2003 works perfectly. All I had to do was install Service Pack 3 for Office 2003 before opening Outlook. I love it!

 

I'll try to use this every day so that I can find more likes and dislikes. So far though, I could probably use this as my primary operating system.

 

Next up: I'll be trying other Start Menu apps and Classic Shell. I don't know when though... I think I'll try Classic Shell first.

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Well, Windows 8.1 isn't so bad after all. It could be better, but it's not bad. I'm using the 90-day Enterprise Evaluation of 8.1.

I installed StartIsBack (after researching to find out which one I might like the most) and I installed Gadgets Revived. After that, everything was instantly a lot better. It enabled me to feel comfortable moving forward so that I could get closer to finishing my evaluation. At this point, I'd say that I'm almost done evaluating it and I would say that I wouldn't be able to tolerate Windows 8.1 without StartIsBack and Gadgets Revived.

I still have some complaints though: Thumbs.db seems to get randomly deleted in every folder. I found a fix for that (right here), but it's still not perfect. It was perfect at first, but it has degraded into something slightly worse than perfect, but it's still better than what it was before this fix.

I also don't like not having the menu bar in File Explorer and being forced to use the Ribbon even though "Always show menus" is enabled in Folder Options.

My brain is a bit fried at the moment, so I'm probably forgetting some of my other complaints.

There is one thing I noticed though that I do like a lot more than Windows 7: when you want to copy or move files to a location where files or folders will be overwritten, a simple dialog box comes up that enables a single-click to say "yes, overwrite everything" rather than being forced to first click "Do this for all conflicts".

Another thing I like is actually something pretty minor: the automatic color changing feature that tries to choose the best color based on the current wallpaper. I have hundreds of wallpapers and I have the transition speed hacked to be 4 seconds and I have the wallpaper change every 30 seconds. What I like about this auto-color change is that I can never decide on a color. One second I want this color, the next second I want that one, then the next second I want this other color, and on and on it goes until I just finally choose a neutral color. lol

Oh yeah, and Outlook 2003 works perfectly. All I had to do was install Service Pack 3 for Office 2003 before opening Outlook. I love it!

I'll try to use this every day so that I can find more likes and dislikes. So far though, I could probably use this as my primary operating system.

Next up: I'll be trying other Start Menu apps and Classic Shell. I don't know when though... I think I'll try Classic Shell first.

I don't mind Win8. If I was paying for it, I'd still be on 7 though. But I got it free via Microsoft accreditation.

In relation to the highlighted part of your qoute, the first thing I do on Win8 is Start8 (or Startisback, as you have), change all my associations and then get rid of the ribbon!
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I don't mind Win8. If I was paying for it, I'd still be on 7 though. But I got it free via Microsoft accreditation.

In relation to the highlighted part of your qoute, the first thing I do on Win8 is Start8 (or Startisback, as you have), change all my associations and then get rid of the ribbon!
http://winaero.com/comment.php?comment.news.20

 

Omg. That's a million times better. Thank you!

 

So I guess now all I have to do is try to find a way to fix this Thumbs.db being deleted issue. At least the icons load super fast - but I can still see them load. I never see them load in Windows 7. The only time I saw them load is before I installed Intel Rapid Storage Technology, which I have installed in 8.1 - and it's the latest version too.

 

Oh well. This is almost perfect now.


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Omg. That's a million times better. Thank you!

So I guess now all I have to do is try to find a way to fix this Thumbs.db being deleted issue.

Quite welcome, man!

This does really highlight the problems with Windows 8, however. I strongly believe under the hood it's awesome.
But then you have all the above little fixes that ultimately make it visually and functionally, just like Win 7...

Maybe this is like the New Coke thing. People will hate it, so they'll bring back "Classic Coke" and make millions!!
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Quite welcome, man!

This does really highlight the problems with Windows 8, however. I strongly believe under the hood it's awesome.
But then you have all the above little fixes that ultimately make it visually and functionally, just like Win 7...

Maybe this is like the New Coke thing. People will hate it, so they'll bring back "Classic Coke" and make millions!!

 

lol pure evil genius.

 

Thanks to disabling the Ribbons, I no longer really see a need to try Classic Shell!

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I will admit I was a Windows 8 hater, over the weekend I installed Windows 8.1 update 1. and I must say it isn't really bad and it's a nice change. I don't really use the metro but it is handy
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Meh. I won't be installing Update 1. I have StartIsBack, Gadgets Revived, and I'm planning on testing other start menu programs as well as Classic Shell. In my opinion, Microsoft hasn't gotten a clue yet.

 

I'm currently using the 90-day Enterprise Evaluation and it's not bad at all with StartIsBack and Gadgets Revived. There are even some ways in which I am preferring Windows 8.1 over Windows 7. One of which is when copying or moving files to a location where files of the same name exist. If I want to overwrite them, then I just have to click one button. I don't have to click "Do this for all conflicts" and then the action and then again if I have files and folders. Another one-click thing is "Open With". I love how if the program is right there, then I just click it. Or, I click 'more' or whatever and then click the program I want or browse for it.

 

Overall though, I'm still preferring Windows 7. However, these third-party apps and these little upgrades that Microsoft made (like the single-click stuff I mentioned) are making me seriously consider making the switch.

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