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So I dont use 8, but my wifes laptop has it. So I dont have extensive knowledge of it, but one thing that has driven me batty with it so far, is the photo viewer. On vacations, we take lots of pictures, so naturally there are a lot of junk shots, like blurry, fingers, ugly, etc. 

So in W7, I just que up the whole folder of pics in picture viewer and blow through the folder of pics in a flash. 

 

DEL, ENTER, DEL, ENTER, RIGHT ARROW, RIGHT ARROW, DEL, ENTER.... ETC. That way I can zoom through getting rid of pictures in W7 very quickly. I may be a moron, but I cannot figure out how to do that in 8.1. Its always find the stupid garbage can icon, (like on a tablet or phone) with the mouse and then manually delete it. Its a huge pain. 

 

There may be a better way to do it, but I havent found it. Makes me so frustrated to use it I will put all the pics on my Desktop just to go through pictures. 

 

Also, trying to figure out how to get out of programs is stupid. The best way I can figure how to do it is alt-F4. Which to me is a big pain to have to do. ESC doesnt even really work. Can't minimize apps. 

 

Whoa. Yeah, I sometimes use the Windows Photo Viewer to just look at a large number pics. I like being able to use either the arrow keys, or the Back and Forward buttons on my mouse, Left Click, or just the left and right arrow buttons on its toolbar at the bottom. It's even better and faster when I put them in Slide Show and then pause it. Switching from one pic to the next in Slide Show mode is instantaneous. In the normal view mode, there's a delay between pics. lol

 

Anyway, maybe it's time I download the 8.1 Enterprise trial to truly see for myself.

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Extensive 8 user here (again), I believe hate is a strong word, but I do have some points I dislike, none that are critical however.
I despise downloading third-party programs for functionality, so these problems deal with native windows, and I don't care if they can be fixed with other programs.
Some of these problems arn't limited to 8, but also exist in previous versions of Windows, but I would of expected them to be fixed by now.

1. Lack of custom Metro-tiles. I am stuck choosing between predefined tile-sizes, icon's, and icon-background colour is generated automatically, often ugly.

2. Lack of cloning the taskbar system tray across monitors. Microsoft said they would be better supporting multi-monitor setups with 8, but they still haven't implement this mad.gif

3. Just Metro apps in general, uninstalled all of them, and set default file-handling to the desktop counter-parts. Hopefully 8.2 makes them more useable.

4. Mousing between different resolution monitors. Windows should be intelligent enough to know that if my mouse moves from the bottom of one screen, it probably wants to go to the bottom of the other screen, not simply stop at the edge of my monitor because the resolution doesn't match up.


This behavior is dictated by the Screen Resolution manager:


I really don't understand it, programmers often have multiple monitors with different sized, surly the programmers at microsoft must have run into this also.
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Whoa. Yeah, I sometimes use the Windows Photo Viewer to just look at a large number pics. I like being able to use either the arrow keys, or the Back and Forward buttons on my mouse, Left Click, or just the left and right arrow buttons on its toolbar at the bottom. It's even better and faster when I put them in Slide Show and then pause it. Switching from one pic to the next in Slide Show mode is instantaneous. In the normal view mode, there's a delay between pics. lol

Anyway, maybe it's time I download the 8.1 Enterprise trial to truly see for myself.

Windows 8/8.1 still ships with windows 7 photo viewer. You just have to change the defaults to it. The metro full screen photo viewer is incredibly annoying.
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The only "hot key" come that I miss from Win 7 is that I used to tap the windows key arrow over and press enter to shut the machine down. Arrow up or down if I wanted to log off or restart. That isn't really a hot key though...and now days I just reach over press my power switch instead.

I think all of the hot keys are still the same...but now there there are a bunch of new ones and of course the Aero related ones are gone.

But...
Win key + number will still launch your pinned applications
Win key + R still opens Run
Win key + D still goes to desktop (but not from the start screen)
Win key + E still opens Windows Explorer (or whatever they call it now)

I could go on and on...I can't think of any that I've seen missing.

My one and only complaint on Win8 is that if you go looking for a rarely used application, that you don't know the name of, you have to use the "All Apps Screen". Which is this horrific mess that might resemble what you would get if you expanded every folder in the start menu and plastered it across the screen with no option to collapse any thing. Applications are still organized by what the top level folder in the Start Menu would have been, but all the sub menus are just mashed together. It isn't too big of a deal for my personal use, but if I work from home I have to use a VM of Win7 I setup for work purposes because it is just a pain. Had they just made that all apps screen collapsible with sub menus...it would have been actually useful and the OS pretty much perfect in my opinion...though I never do anything with the "Metro" Start Screen besides when I tap the Win key to search for something and for that it works fine.
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the fact that it is all tiles like its made for tablet, as apposed to being made for a PC.

It's not all tiles.
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Extensive 8 user here (again), I believe hate is a strong word, but I do have some points I dislike, none that are critical however.
I despise downloading third-party programs for functionality, so these problems deal with native windows, and I don't care if they can be fixed with other programs.
Some of these problems arn't limited to 8, but also exist in previous versions of Windows, but I would of expected them to be fixed by now.

1. Lack of custom Metro-tiles. I am stuck choosing between predefined tile-sizes, icon's, and icon-background colour is generated automatically, often ugly.

2. Lack of cloning the taskbar system tray across monitors. Microsoft said they would be better supporting multi-monitor setups with 8, but they still haven't implement this mad.gif

3. Just Metro apps in general, uninstalled all of them, and set default file-handling to the desktop counter-parts. Hopefully 8.2 makes them more useable.

4. Mousing between different resolution monitors. Windows should be intelligent enough to know that if my mouse moves from the bottom of one screen, it probably wants to go to the bottom of the other screen, not simply stop at the edge of my monitor because the resolution doesn't match up.


This behavior is dictated by the Screen Resolution manager:


I really don't understand it, programmers often have multiple monitors with different sized, surly the programmers at microsoft must have run into this also.

 

Hmm. I don't know yet if I'll be using any tiles. Thank you though.

 

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Originally Posted by orlfman View Post


Windows 8/8.1 still ships with windows 7 photo viewer. You just have to change the defaults to it. The metro full screen photo viewer is incredibly annoying.

 

Oh good.

 

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Originally Posted by Vagrant Storm View Post

The only "hot key" come that I miss from Win 7 is that I used to tap the windows key arrow over and press enter to shut the machine down. Arrow up or down if I wanted to log off or restart. That isn't really a hot key though...and now days I just reach over press my power switch instead.

I think all of the hot keys are still the same...but now there there are a bunch of new ones and of course the Aero related ones are gone.

But...
Win key + number will still launch your pinned applications
Win key + R still opens Run
Win key + D still goes to desktop (but not from the start screen)
Win key + E still opens Windows Explorer (or whatever they call it now)

I could go on and on...I can't think of any that I've seen missing.

My one and only complaint on Win8 is that if you go looking for a rarely used application, that you don't know the name of, you have to use the "All Apps Screen". Which is this horrific mess that might resemble what you would get if you expanded every folder in the start menu and plastered it across the screen with no option to collapse any thing. Applications are still organized by what the top level folder in the Start Menu would have been, but all the sub menus are just mashed together. It isn't too big of a deal for my personal use, but if I work from home I have to use a VM of Win7 I setup for work purposes because it is just a pain. Had they just made that all apps screen collapsible with sub menus...it would have been actually useful and the OS pretty much perfect in my opinion...though I never do anything with the "Metro" Start Screen besides when I tap the Win key to search for something and for that it works fine.

 

Oh bad. No more Windows Key + Up or Down or Left or Right. Very bad.

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Ok. I'm downloading the 8.1 Enterrpise 90-day free trial now. I don't know if/when I'll ever install it (on a spare drive that I'm no longer using), but it's only 3.7 GB.

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The only thing I hate about Windows 8.1 is that it's the thing people love to hate.

I've been using Windows 8/8.1 since they were released. Start8 has been installed the whole time and I forget that I'm even using Windows 8.1. It's stable, works great, and does what I need it to do.
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The only thing I hate about Windows 8.1 is that it's the thing people love to hate.

I've been using Windows 8/8.1 since they were released. Start8 has been installed the whole time and I forget that I'm even using Windows 8.1. It's stable, works great, and does what I need it to do.

 

Interesting! Is there a reason why you went with Start8 instead of one of those free apps? Or, is there more than one reason? Fill me in! Entice me. hehe :)

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Oh bad. No more Windows Key + Up or Down or Left or Right. Very bad.

If you mean the aero snap, that still works normally with the windows key.
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