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The only "hot key" come that I miss from Win 7 is that I used to tap the windows key arrow over and press enter to shut the machine down. Arrow up or down if I wanted to log off or restart. That isn't really a hot key though...and now days I just reach over press my power switch instead.

I think all of the hot keys are still the same...but now there there are a bunch of new ones and of course the Aero related ones are gone.

But...
Win key + number will still launch your pinned applications
Win key + R still opens Run
Win key + D still goes to desktop (but not from the start screen)
Win key + E still opens Windows Explorer (or whatever they call it now)

I could go on and on...I can't think of any that I've seen missing.

My one and only complaint on Win8 is that if you go looking for a rarely used application, that you don't know the name of, you have to use the "All Apps Screen". Which is this horrific mess that might resemble what you would get if you expanded every folder in the start menu and plastered it across the screen with no option to collapse any thing. Applications are still organized by what the top level folder in the Start Menu would have been, but all the sub menus are just mashed together. It isn't too big of a deal for my personal use, but if I work from home I have to use a VM of Win7 I setup for work purposes because it is just a pain. Had they just made that all apps screen collapsible with sub menus...it would have been actually useful and the OS pretty much perfect in my opinion...though I never do anything with the "Metro" Start Screen besides when I tap the Win key to search for something and for that it works fine.

Yeah agreed on the bolded. thumb.gif

I think that's about the only complaint I have about Win 8.1...if MS found a way to make the All Apps screen much tidier it would be a huge improvement.
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Civ5- didn't work
CSS: didn't work
L2D2: nope
Porta1/2: nope
and a few others.

( stand alone installed games worked fine, Origin games works fine )

This is trying it with SEVERAL fresh installs on seveal different hard drives, bios settings, GPU's, etc.
Basically valve just told me that my computer must be broken.

Several people got the games to work on 8.1 but for whatever reason, I cant. My room mate had a similar issue, but he isn't a fan of 8 so he didn't care about going back to 7, I liked 8, but since I'm only on windows for games, I've alot of money wasted because I have a product key I can't use.

( fyi, games used to work on 8, but 8.1 is where the problems started )

Not just to be contrary or to annoy you up but I have Civ 5 and the Portals they all work fine in 8 and 8.1. I have a boxed dvd of The Witcher from 2008 or whatever its works fine with a patch, Neverwinter Nights 2 the same, Supreme Commander.. I may have just been lucky to pick the games that work but that's been my experience.

Apart from that its O.K Win 8 for me. I don't use metro at ALL have it set to start to desktop, and I never used the Start Button through any other version of windows if I could avoid it so its fine for me. Win X to shut down smile.gif
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Yeah agreed on the bolded. thumb.gif

I think that's about the only complaint I have about Win 8.1...if MS found a way to make the All Apps screen much tidier it would be a huge improvement.

Best way to do this is sort by category, then when looking for a specific folder click the "-" button at the bottom right.
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It is easy to use and I love using keys to navigate through. It is nice and clean. I do not understand why people hate it.... I mean change sucks sometimes but it is the nature of the beast.
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I also don't get how people have to go to the registery to disable UAC. I just moved the slider down and the pop ups were never to be seen again. Just like in windows 7.
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I think people may be getting confused with smart screen? but that also doesn't require a registry change.
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Damn I love you guys (no homo). You all are being extremely helpful here.

 

 

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Originally Posted by .:hybrid:. View Post

Yes

 

Nice!

 

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I fit into this, Ive had windows 8 since beta loved every bit of it, went to 8.1 once before didn't really like it to much, but thats because i did the upgrade and something got messed up. I Went back to windows 8 for awhile, but recently i clean installed windows 8.1 and im never changing back again i don't think, i love 8.1

Only complaint so far after about a month of 8.1 clean install is that when i play EVE Online in full-screen windowed mode (often on 3 of my 4 monitors, 3 clients open) Windows 8, and every OS before when you click on another screen not your primary one your task bar would over ride the game, so i could change volume settings or open a program without alt tab, im sure i could find a way to bring that back, but its not really a big deal i would lose the OS over.
Yes, i use this all the time, I have 3 eyefinity monitors, and a accessory screen above, having the shortcut keys help alot.

 

Interesting. Thank you1

 

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I wouldnt worry about it, most likely user error. I have about 40 games installed on steam under win 8.1 and all of them work flawlessly.

 

Either that, or it's some other problem that he's having that I don't have. :/

 

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Have you tried this? http://betanews.com/2013/08/27/automate-login-and-bypass-the-lock-and-start-screens-in-windows-8-1/

Works for me.

 

Nice. Windows 8.1 is looking better and better the more and more I learn about it.

 

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Originally Posted by HeadlessKnight View Post

Is this thread only for those who hate Windows 8.1?
If it is, then sorry. But I don't have something I hate on Win 8.1 because from my experience Windows 8.1 is much better than my Windows 7 was, it is just more responsive, some games work better and I get higher fps in some games due to better resource management, and definitely I am very happy with the upgrade. I hated Metro at first but I got used to it and now I prefer it when compared to the classic version. In the Metro Start Menu you can Pin you favorite Apps for quick access either from the "App menu" or from any folder, not to mention it hold much more Apps than the old Start Menu, and doesn't look as distorted when a lot of apps are added to it.

 

Thank you! :)

 

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I've got it on two rigs, one that is my main gaming rig that I use lately only for BF4 and streaming to my Shield. Once in a while it gets used for Photoshop. I can't give any reasons to not switch, nor can I find any reasons to upgrade from 7. Honestly, I'm an average user but I found it extremely easy to adapt between the two OS. The complaints I see are either from people having random incompatability issues of which I have yet to run in to (even on the same things they are having issues with) or power users, which use Windows in a much more complex way then I do. You of course have the bandwagon which loves to do nothing but complain with the rest of the herd, but those are easy to spot ("I've heard blah blah blah").

I won't be upgrading my Windows 7 machines. They work great and I don't feel the need to spend the money to change them. My Windows 8.1 rigs work wonderfully as well. I will throw out that my recently acquired Corsair Link does not play perfectly well with the 8.1 rig it's connected to. The software is in beta and buggy, but that's the Link in general so I can't fault Windows for that. My 2cents.gif

 

I am very grateful to you for adding your 2 cents!

 

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The only metro I have to interact with on a daily basis is the "Apps view" sorted by 'most used', it's pretty much the same as the start menu and even references locations and settings called "start menu".

The charms menu and Start screen are both redundant and are left untouched throughout day to day use.

All default metro Apps and the store are easily removable from Windows 8.1 even if there is no longer a one click un-install button.

I've only noticed ribbons present in Explorer, everything else seems to have the menu bar, and although it makes things easier, not worse, I have never really had to use it since all the options are present in context menus. (It's also nice to know now that some options even exist since they aren't hidden behind layers of drop downs)

The default theme is still plagued with GPU rendering, animations, fading, a seethrough taskbar, shadows and all that pretty junk, but it's a better than Windows 7's default. The 'lite' theme and some other options are removed but there are ways around it.

Games overall perform a little better, but there are many games that aren't compatible with Windows 8.1, usually games made for Vista or before, really old games recently ported to Windows, then there's many cases like GTA4, the game works fine in 8.1, the DRM however doesn't, so you'll be forced to find ways around that.

In Windows 7 explorer you could enable the Preview pane on the right and Details pane at the bottom, in Windows 8.1 there is no pane at the bottom, and you can enable the Detail pane or Preview pane on the right, but not both at the same time, though it is only a click to flick between the two or disable it.

I make heavy use of the Task Manager and I feel it's much better in 8.1 vs 7, I've also had no issues with it, nor is it a metro app as I think somebody mentioned.

Overall things like boot are much faster in Windows 8.1, and the update coming next week is supposed to make Windows 8.1 much more light and responsive.

I'm not using anything like start is back etc because they offer no extra functionality; it's all already there.

Windows 8.1 includes the same photo viewer as windows 7 and offers the exact same functionally, it just uses the (cr)app by default.

My real opinion of Windows 8.1 is the same as my opinion of Windows 7: out of the box the default configuration is a pile of crap, it takes a good day of playing about and looking things up to get it in a nice place.

 

Thank you. This is very helpful.

 

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Originally Posted by ghostrider85 View Post

nothing, i love windows 8.1

 

This is helpful too, believe it or not.

 

 

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Not just to be contrary or to annoy you up but I have Civ 5 and the Portals they all work fine in 8 and 8.1. I have a boxed dvd of The Witcher from 2008 or whatever its works fine with a patch, Neverwinter Nights 2 the same, Supreme Commander.. I may have just been lucky to pick the games that work but that's been my experience.

Apart from that its O.K Win 8 for me. I don't use metro at ALL have it set to start to desktop, and I never used the Start Button through any other version of windows if I could avoid it so its fine for me. Win X to shut down smile.gif

 

Do you mean, Win+X and then Up, Up, Right, Up, Up, Enter? That's what I heard.

 

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Best way to do this is sort by category, then when looking for a specific folder click the "-" button at the bottom right.

 

Nice. Thank you.

 

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Originally Posted by Quesoblanco View Post

It is easy to use and I love using keys to navigate through. It is nice and clean. I do not understand why people hate it.... I mean change sucks sometimes but it is the nature of the beast.

 

This is helpful! Thank you.

 

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I also don't get how people have to go to the registery to disable UAC. I just moved the slider down and the pop ups were never to be seen again. Just like in windows 7.

 

That's what I thought would happen! lol

 

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I think people may be getting confused with smart screen? but that also doesn't require a registry change.

 

Smart Screen?

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Using Win 8.1 with Classic Shell . Two things bother me with the OS. Win 8.1 is compressing desktop backgrounds (easily fixed though) and also the ability to choose a different hardware or software MIDI synthesizer other than the default Microsoft GS Wavetable Synth has been removed. The MIDI contoller works fine in the programs I use though. I only had issues when trying to update the firmware on it. (no MIDI was plugged in, it said).

Other than that, it's smooth sailing. smile.gif All my games, programs and whatnots are running neatly. And Project Spark is pretty cool. wink.gif
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Oh bad. No more Windows Key + Up or Down or Left or Right. Very bad.

If you mean the aero snap, that still works normally with the windows key.

no...this was about if you press and release the Win key in Win7...the start menu pops up. Then you press arrow over and the focus is on the default shutdown option. Then press enter to execute. Just a quick easy way to shutdown/logoff a machine.

The maximize/restore, or tossing to the side, of holding the Win key and pressing arrow still works. Though that can't be an Aero thing...Aero is gone. I think I was doing that in XP too.
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Damn I love you guys (no homo). You all are being extremely helpful here.
Smart Screen?

When you attempt to run an application you've not run before SmartScreen will do three things:

Is this application in the list of known malware? If yes, it's blocked from running and you are told why in a message, if not then:

Is this application on the list of known good applications? If yes, it lets the application run normally without bothering you, if it's not then you get a prompt basically saying "this is from the internet, we don't know what this is or if you can trust it do really you want to run it?"

As you can see below, it's useful for stopping users from using bad or unknown apps and it's very easily disabled just like UAC, but you very, very rarely get bothered by it.



The main reason to disable it though is that worryingly it requires an internet connection:



I have SmartScreen enabled, but it isn't allowed to connect to the internet.
Edited by Bearybear - 4/1/14 at 11:33am
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