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Now that I think about it...I might have even had to set Origin.exe to Win8 mode...but that was last fall some time. I am sure it's been updated. I don't have it that way now...(I think)
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Went and bought a copy of Win 8.1 Pro for my laptop. Waste of money. On a philosophical level mainly. It is almost mind numbing that something as simple to include as an open source codec ( .ogg files ) requires 3rd party software. I have disliked Windows for a long time. Metro isn't as bad as I thought, got used to it quickly. But not supporting a simple thing as a audio codec blows my mind. Went back to Mint and sold my Windows 8.1 Pro copy ( Retail, wasn't OEM ). It offers me absolutely nothing to warrant switching away from Linux of some variation.

*EDIT* Also they did something with cleartype? At least according to what little I could find on the subject of some programs / apps being stupidly blurry. So 200 bucks on an OS that has had decent backwards compatability for 20 years all the sudden blurs out anything not win 8 native. More of that touch screen nonsense.
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i hate that its a tablet OS built for PCs and you have to mod it to make it for desktop.
     
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Well, I decided that I'm going to evaluate it using the 90-day free trial of 8.1 Enterprise. I'm going to be beginning the installation in about 2 hours.I'll install it on my 60 GB Mushkin Callisto Deluxe, which was replaced by my 250 GB Samsung 840 EVO.


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I've been using 8.1 for a few months. I haven't noticed any advantage whatsoever for using 8.1 over 7 or even Vista, but then again I'm not using a touch screen and I don't really use hot keys.

Now the things that annoy me are

1) It is a real hassle to fully power down. Here I thought that shutdown meant shutdown, and when I thought everything was down I had to reset a tripped breaker or whatever. Curiously this was killing my Solid State Drives. After some research, it turns out that in 8.1, shutdown doesn't actually mean shutdown, it's actually some sort of hybrid sleep thing. I haven't figured out a way to disable that other than to restart to UEFI and then do a hard power down from the BIOS.

2) Why should I need to leave the desktop space and go over to the metro screen to open a program like calculator which opens on the desktop anyways? Very redundant. My work around is to shortcut anything I use frequently into the task bar. Normally I would not have near as many icons in my task bar because the moderately used stuff would be pinned in my start menu in previous versions of windows. Why should I have to install a 3rd party program just to have a usable start menu again?

3) HWBOT has a draconian policy against Windows 8 submissions.

Overall, it doesn't feel as painful as switching from XP to Vista, with printer drivers and other programs that just didn't work anymore, annoying UAC, resource hog, ect.
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I've been using 8.1 for a few months. I haven't noticed any advantage whatsoever for using 8.1 over 7 or even Vista, but then again I'm not using a touch screen and I don't really use hot keys.

Now the things that annoy me are

1) It is a real hassle to fully power down. Here I thought that shutdown meant shutdown, and when I thought everything was down I had to reset a tripped breaker or whatever. Curiously this was killing my Solid State Drives. After some research, it turns out that in 8.1, shutdown doesn't actually mean shutdown, it's actually some sort of hybrid sleep thing. I haven't figured out a way to disable that other than to restart to UEFI and then do a hard power down from the BIOS.

2) Why should I need to leave the desktop space and go over to the metro screen to open a program like calculator which opens on the desktop anyways? Very redundant. My work around is to shortcut anything I use frequently into the task bar. Normally I would not have near as many icons in my task bar because the moderately used stuff would be pinned in my start menu in previous versions of windows. Why should I have to install a 3rd party program just to have a usable start menu again?

3) HWBOT has a draconian policy against Windows 8 submissions.

Overall, it doesn't feel as painful as switching from XP to Vista, with printer drivers and other programs that just didn't work anymore, annoying UAC, resource hog, ect.

I was actually considering trying out Vista again.
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I've been using 8.1 for a few months. I haven't noticed any advantage whatsoever for using 8.1 over 7 or even Vista, but then again I'm not using a touch screen and I don't really use hot keys.

Now the things that annoy me are

1) It is a real hassle to fully power down. Here I thought that shutdown meant shutdown, and when I thought everything was down I had to reset a tripped breaker or whatever. Curiously this was killing my Solid State Drives. After some research, it turns out that in 8.1, shutdown doesn't actually mean shutdown, it's actually some sort of hybrid sleep thing. I haven't figured out a way to disable that other than to restart to UEFI and then do a hard power down from the BIOS.

 

Wow. I'm sure I'll find out about this after trying the 8.1 Enterprise free trial.

 

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2) Why should I need to leave the desktop space and go over to the metro screen to open a program like calculator which opens on the desktop anyways? Very redundant. My work around is to shortcut anything I use frequently into the task bar. Normally I would not have near as many icons in my task bar because the moderately used stuff would be pinned in my start menu in previous versions of windows. Why should I have to install a 3rd party program just to have a usable start menu again?

 

That's ok with me. I have 25 items pinned to the Taskbar, all visible thanks to 7+ Taskbar Tweaker. :) I also have 4 things on the Quick Launch toolbar. So, I would really have 29 items pinned if I could!

 

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3) HWBOT has a draconian policy against Windows 8 submissions.

 

Oh. I don't participate in HWBot, so...

 

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Overall, it doesn't feel as painful as switching from XP to Vista, with printer drivers and other programs that just didn't work anymore, annoying UAC, resource hog, ect.

 

What's annoying about UAC? I've seen others say that all they have to do is the same thing in Windows 7: lower it down all the way and it's gone.

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I've been using 8.1 for a few months. I haven't noticed any advantage whatsoever for using 8.1 over 7 or even Vista, but then again I'm not using a touch screen and I don't really use hot keys.

Now the things that annoy me are

1) It is a real hassle to fully power down. Here I thought that shutdown meant shutdown, and when I thought everything was down I had to reset a tripped breaker or whatever. Curiously this was killing my Solid State Drives. After some research, it turns out that in 8.1, shutdown doesn't actually mean shutdown, it's actually some sort of hybrid sleep thing. I haven't figured out a way to disable that other than to restart to UEFI and then do a hard power down from the BIOS.

2) Why should I need to leave the desktop space and go over to the metro screen to open a program like calculator which opens on the desktop anyways? Very redundant. My work around is to shortcut anything I use frequently into the task bar. Normally I would not have near as many icons in my task bar because the moderately used stuff would be pinned in my start menu in previous versions of windows. Why should I have to install a 3rd party program just to have a usable start menu again?

3) HWBOT has a draconian policy against Windows 8 submissions.

Overall, it doesn't feel as painful as switching from XP to Vista, with printer drivers and other programs that just didn't work anymore, annoying UAC, resource hog, ect.

1) If you shut down from the WIN+X menu (right click on the start button) in Windows 8.1, it will perform a full shutdown instead of a hybrid shutdown even if you have Fast Startup turned on. http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials/6320-fast-startup-turn-off-windows-8-a.html

2) Personally I feel the start screen is just the same as the desktop, it's all just manually set up short cuts, only you keep your actual desktop clutter free.

3) Due to a flaw that plenty of people knowingly and unknowingly abused the crap out of.

Edit: He was referring to UAC in Vista having come from XP.

Also: Cleartype is still present and used as it was in 7, it's just most of the text in metro based interfaces and applications don't use it. http://www.istartedsomething.com/20120303/cleartype-takes-a-back-seat-for-windows-8-metro/
Edited by Bearybear - 4/1/14 at 2:46pm
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I was actually considering trying out Vista again.

In my other machine I have Vista running superb. The only problem is you have to download a few updates to get it running on par with 7 with DX11. They are really the same after you tune it up.
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1) If you shut down from the WIN+X menu (right click on the start button) in Windows 8.1, it will perform a full shutdown instead of a hybrid shutdown even if you have Fast Startup turned on. http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials/6320-fast-startup-turn-off-windows-8-a.html

2) Personally I feel the start screen is just the same as the desktop, it's all just manually set up short cuts, only you keep your actual desktop clutter free.

3) Due to a flaw that plenty of people knowingly and unknowingly abused the crap out of.

Edit: He was referring to UAC in Vista having come from XP.

 

Oops. I read it too fast. Way too much caffeine and way too much excitement about trying something very new. :)

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