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post #11 of 28
Why didnt you come on here and ask questions first? Amd was great back before the C2D was released. Now its just a waste of money and bought by people who are biased against intel.

To put it in perspective. You can buy an ASRock X58 Extreme and an X5650 on ebay for 200 dollars today, overclock it to 4.2Ghz and it would destroy an 8350 at 5Ghz+. Amd is THAT BAD
Edited by Stay Puft - 4/1/14 at 7:33pm
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post #12 of 28
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Processor: Water Cooled FX 8350 OCed 4.4GHz
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Did you buy that old mobo new? I think I would have bought something better. I like the FX-8350 itself, have it in my dev rig myself. smile.gif
post #13 of 28
You've not screwed up by buying AMD

I used to read folk on the internet telling me AMD chips were not good , so I upgraded to i7 ivy, performance on the vast majority of games was about the same
Worst upgrade ever
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You've not screwed up by buying AMD

I used to read folk on the internet telling me AMD chips were not good , so I upgraded to i7 ivy, performance on the vast majority of games was about the same
Worst upgrade ever


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Go play Wow, SC2 and Skyrim and see the difference
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It's all down to budget

if I could've afforded it, I would have went with intel

all of the benchmarking has been done time and time again and when you do a straight comparison of overall gaming performance, intel wins on most areas

however, on a price vs performance ratio, AMD wins hands down

If I had went down the intel route, just the CPU and mobo alone would've set me back £500+

The 8350 plus a sabertooth 990fx r2.0 only set me back £250, leaving enough money to get an extra GPU for sli

I can't complain at the perforamnce I get from the 8350 at all, but at the same time, I know full well the performance would have been better if I'd spent more for an intel setup
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post #16 of 28
A lot of it is due to Direct X...it really only uses one thread for rendering. Even if you see a lot of activity spread across multiple threads only one will really be contributing directly to rendering. Well...small percentages of other threads will be utilized and if the game is running physics the the rendering is dependent on will make a difference, but the majority of anything related to Direct X will be on one thread. So the 8350 can't leverage all its threads in a game. So gaming is still benefiting from a higher IPC over more threads more often than not.

Try playing games like Wow in Linux with WINE. You will actually get better performance since you break free of some of the Direct X shackles and if some one can tell the difference in visual quality I'd call them crazy.

Go do something other than use Direct X and the 8350 will shine a bit brighter. Video encoding for example.

Though I always tell people if you are not going to drop the cash for a high end Intel rig...just get yourself an AMD A10 APU or a FX4xxx...anything in between isn't worth it my book.
Edited by Vagrant Storm - 4/4/14 at 8:01am
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post #17 of 28
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Go play Wow, SC2 and Skyrim and see the difference

Skyrim runs 60fps at the highest settings , never noticed SC2 drop frames and I've never played WOW as it's not for me and it's ancient
post #18 of 28
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You've not screwed up by buying AMD

I used to read folk on the internet telling me AMD chips were not good , so I upgraded to i7 ivy, performance on the vast majority of games was about the same
Worst upgrade ever


lachen.gif

Go play Wow, SC2 and Skyrim and see the difference
You still quote about Skyrim. Everybody and their monkey who generally visits OCN knows about the x87 compiler used in Skyrim and have taken the necessary steps to avoid getting poor performance on AMD chips in Skyrim. rolleyes.gif
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post #19 of 28
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Go play Wow, SC2 and Skyrim and see the difference

Skyrim runs 60fps at the highest settings , never noticed SC2 drop frames and I've never played WOW as it's not for me and it's ancient

SC2 seems to be a good game for using multiple threads...I'd expect that to run OK on a 8350.

I've always heard Skyrim is a very CPU IPC dependent game though...never played it myself...after that travesty called Oblivion I will never buy a TES game again unless it says in the description that there is no scaling save for maybe a few random encounters. However, it's been said many times that the game gets CPU bound fast...especially with mods.

Wow and really any multiplayer game will always be hard on the CPU. Even shooters like BF4. You can play the single player aspect of BF4 on practically any old CPU you can dust off, but once you take it online the CPU will matter a fair amount. I assume it is the processing of what the other players are doing and their stats. In the single player aspect there is a lot less variables to worry about with the bots.
Edited by Vagrant Storm - 4/4/14 at 8:21am
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post #20 of 28
Don't sweat it, you are fine on the 8350, although older games like WoW tend to be horribly optimized around multiple threads.
    
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