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Thanks great.
how are AMD CPU's these days? back when I was building computers they were pretty much the same as intel.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-8350 4.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($199.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus M5A97 R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($94.23 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($84.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card ($265.66 @ Newegg)
Total: $704.86
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-04-01 16:35 EDT-0400)

how's this?
5 bucks over my budget, but its ok.
AMD CPU's offer great value for your money. They arent quite up to Intel in terms of having fast CPU's but they are still good for your money. I usually recommend them for budget builds. PS: Change the CPU to an 8320, I forgot to mention that. You will save like $40 or somethin like that.
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post #12 of 21
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Thanks great.
how are AMD CPU's these days? back when I was building computers they were pretty much the same as intel.

Its been awhile since I've looked at the benchmarks, but the current gen AMD processors are very power hungry compared to intel counterparts, and their IPC(Instructions per clock) is much lower. That 4.0ghz piledriver CPU has roughly the same performance as a 3.0ghz on a per core basis(This might not be 100% accurate, but something around there). While the 8350 has a core advantage over the i5 by double, only a few games and applications are capable of using all 8 cores.

The 8350 also doesn't do very well in games which are poorly coded/single-threaded, which there are only a few big name games with this problem(I forget them all but starcraft 2).

The plus side for the 8350 is that it can be overclocked while a locked i5 cannot, but with that comes more power consumption, and more heat, but then again this is overclock.net.

Also, as stated above a 8320 is the same thing just clocked lower, unless you don't know how to overclock and don't feel like learning.

Hopefully I didn't state any inaccurate info in this post, been awhile since I looked at CPU benchmarks. I'll correct any bad info if I need to.
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It's been almost a yr since I looked much into this but.. My general recommendations is go for AMD on the budget builds where you want good performance at a low pricepoint. Go for intel if you have high cpu demands and plan on high overclocks. I mainly went intel because I knew I would be running 24/7 fairly often and would have at least a 1ghz OC so in the long run, the lower power draw of the 3570k plus the greater performance won my votes. IIRC, the 8320 is about the same as the 3570k but intel has far lower power demands on an OC(somewhat in the range of 150w+ draw difference).
Just my unbiased opinion on that standpoint =] Hope it helped some!
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so should I pay the extra $$ and get the intel i5 3570k?
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so should I pay the extra $$ and get the intel i5 3570k?

If you're going to overclock, and depending what games you play. You'd also need to buy a z87 motherboard to overclock as well.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157372
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If you're going to overclock, and depending what games you play. You'd also need to buy a z87 motherboard to overclock as well.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157372

I'm probably not going to overclock, and I barely play games. just need a solid computer that'll be pretty future proof.
post #17 of 21
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so should I pay the extra $$ and get the intel i5 3570k?
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If you're going to overclock, and depending what games you play. You'd also need to buy a z87 motherboard to overclock as well.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157372

Would need to buy a Z77 motherboard*
Z87 is Haswell.
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I'm probably not going to overclock, and I barely play games. just need a solid computer that'll be pretty future proof.
Im gunna double post here because I feel like it.

Not gunna overclock, honestly the Xeon I suggest is the best option then if you want to minorly futureproof the system. Games are starting to get optimized for hyperthreading, which the Xeon has for cheaper then a 4770k.
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Would you be able to wait until the second generation Haswells come out? Devil's Canyon is literally right around the corner. But honestly, if you have to build now, the E3-1230V3 is a no-brainer for overclockers. Puts the i7-4770 non-K to shame for $60-80 less where I live, and only about $20 more than the i5-4670. If you must OC, go with a 4770K for the sake of slight futureproofing. A lot of people will tell you that Xeon is trash and will always be trash for gaming, but since the release of Ivy Bridge E3-1200 family, they're all compatible with LGA1155/1150 like their Core i counterparts and are often cheaper. For the lower price tag, you get extra L3 cache on the E3-1220V3 which does not have HT, and you get Xeon reliability on all of them, something that is debatable but definitely beneficial for people looking to keep their rigs.

For a i7-4770, i5-4670, or E3-1230V3, get a good Z87 motherboard; down the road if you want to SLI or CF then you will have 2 x PCIe 3.0 X16 slots to work with.

Unless you REALLY want to for some reason, there is no reason to build an Ivy Bridge rig in 2014, unless you're looking at budget i3s and Pentiums to save money. Same goes for AMD, I would wait to see what AMD has in store, because AMD's not a company to leak all their products ahead of time.

Last thing, if you do decide on the 8320/8350, which is great for usage regardless of its performance in relation to Intel, you should probably get a good air cooler or AIO water cooler. The stock AMD fan will definitely let you down, hold the chip back, and raise temperatures in your rig. 212 EVO is still good; I'm rocking a Noctua U9B and it works fine.
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To be honest, for daily computing and light gaming I dont think you will see/feel much a difference between any current AMD or Intel processor be it a Celeron/AMD APU or the i7s/Xeons/FX cpu's. What you choose really comes down to intended daily use and how long you plan on running this particular build. As I said, for just daily computing and light gaming you could get away with an AMD 760k and dedicated GPU... If you are doing more intensive tasks, then the FX 8320 or an i5/i7 will be more what you are looking for, and I think for future proofing the more core/thread option is sound.
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