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Hello! I have a question regarding the different blocks and the coolant I'll be using in my build. The first question is whether the following blocks will cause any issues at all in terms of compatibility.

Koolance CPU-380I Waterblock

http://koolance.com/cpu-380i-processor-water-block

Alphacool UT60 280mm Radiator

http://www.alphacool.com/product_info.php/info/p984_Alp...

Alphacool XT45 360mm Radiator

http://www.alphacool.com/product_info.php/info/p973_Alp...

EVGA GTX 780ti Classified Hydrocopper

http://www.evga.com/Products/Product.aspx?pn=400-CU-G78...

Secondly, I'm a little concerned about the coolant I'll be using in the loop. Initially, I was going for distilled water and a silver coil, but after reading Koolance's warranty that warns against mixing nickel and silver, I have reconsidered. The decision gets trickier when the color of the tubing or coolant must match my Asus Z87 Pro brown/and or gold color scheme.

Here it is:
http://assets.vr-zone.net/20189/Z87-PRO.jpg

It's between finding tubing that matches this theme + using distilled water and a silver coil

V S.

Getting clear tubing and using a pre-mixed gold colored coolant.

Thank you so much for taking the time to help me out!
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Originally Posted by bounti View Post

Hello! I have a question regarding the different blocks and the coolant I'll be using in my build. The first question is whether the following blocks will cause any issues at all in terms of compatibility.

Koolance CPU-380I Waterblock

http://koolance.com/cpu-380i-processor-water-block

Alphacool UT60 280mm Radiator

http://www.alphacool.com/product_info.php/info/p984_Alp...

Alphacool XT45 360mm Radiator

http://www.alphacool.com/product_info.php/info/p973_Alp...

EVGA GTX 780ti Classified Hydrocopper

http://www.evga.com/Products/Product.aspx?pn=400-CU-G78...

Secondly, I'm a little concerned about the coolant I'll be using in the loop. Initially, I was going for distilled water and a silver coil, but after reading Koolance's warranty that warns against mixing nickel and silver, I have reconsidered. The decision gets trickier when the color of the tubing or coolant must match my Asus Z87 Pro brown/and or gold color scheme.

Here it is:
http://assets.vr-zone.net/20189/Z87-PRO.jpg

It's between finding tubing that matches this theme + using distilled water and a silver coil

V S.

Getting clear tubing and using a pre-mixed gold colored coolant.

Thank you so much for taking the time to help me out!

Link to the gold coolant? Make sure it doesn't have any additives in it already since it is pre-mixed. In addition, biocides such as PTNuke may not change the overall color of the coolant, but may affect the properties of the coolant.

EDIT: You could use yellow tubing such as this or this, then use distilled water with PTNuke.
Edited by aznpersuazn - 4/1/14 at 3:12pm
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I haven't been able to find a gold coolant as hard as I've tried. I remember reading about an aurora gold coolant a long ago. I would prefer using colored tubing as you suggested, but I can't seem to find the right color. The closest match would be the yellow you linked me to, but that doesn't match the z87 or noctua fans quite as I would like.

Do you know any other options?

Perhaps a different color that might fit or add to the color scheme?

In terms of compatibility, would you say those blocks are all right?

Thank you!
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those blocks and rads will be fine together. personally, i wouldnt use a silver coil. some people blame the silver coil for corrosion while others have no problems.
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Ah, thanks, that relieves some worries. Now I just need to decide on the ideal tubing/coolant combination that will work perfectly and match the Z87/Noctua theme.

I was thinking about this coolant: http://www.xoxide.com/mayhem-aurorahydragoldcoolantconcentrate-250ml.html
However, I've heard horror stories about clogging and other problems within the loop when using these:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NC3wLQxv3Uk
Edited by bounti - 4/2/14 at 8:04am
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I haven't been able to find a gold coolant as hard as I've tried. I remember reading about an aurora gold coolant a long ago. I would prefer using colored tubing as you suggested, but I can't seem to find the right color. The closest match would be the yellow you linked me to, but that doesn't match the z87 or noctua fans quite as I would like.

Do you know any other options?

Perhaps a different color that might fit or add to the color scheme?

In terms of compatibility, would you say those blocks are all right?

Thank you!

Gold is a metallic color, it can't be achieved with non metals. To actually be gold it needs to reflect light, non metal liquids won't reflect light in the same way. The closest you could get would be a dull brownish yellow. Mayhems Aurora is Mayhems X1 with pearlecent nano particles, so mayhems X1 with lots of little solid grains of whatever they use. If you change the radiators to ST30s and the waterblock to the EK Supremacy you should be able to get away with aurora assuming you have a good pump, but those radiators are huge. The nano particles will get caught in the chambers, as the channels protrude through the rads chambers leaving a lip stuff can get stuck in.
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Ah, thanks, that relieves some worries. Now I just need to decide on the ideal tubing/coolant combination that will work perfectly and match the Z87/Noctua theme.

I was thinking about this coolant: http://www.xoxide.com/mayhem-aurorahydragoldcoolantconcentrate-250ml.html
However, I've heard horror stories about clogging and other problems within the loop when using these:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NC3wLQxv3Uk

Aurora isn't going to gunk, period. Ethylene glycol and copper sulphate reacts with eachother and greats gunk, since aurora is X1 based it has no ethylene glycol. As I said, worst case scenario the particles fall out of suspension and settle somewhere. If you properly design your loop you should be fine. Visit the Mayhems Users Club thread to inquire about how to properly set up a loop for Aurora.
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I haven't been able to find a gold coolant as hard as I've tried. I remember reading about an aurora gold coolant a long ago. I would prefer using colored tubing as you suggested, but I can't seem to find the right color. The closest match would be the yellow you linked me to, but that doesn't match the z87 or noctua fans quite as I would like.

Do you know any other options?

Perhaps a different color that might fit or add to the color scheme?

In terms of compatibility, would you say those blocks are all right?

Thank you!

Tygon makes a silver tubing, that's the closest thing I can think of. Couldn't use nickle though with silver.
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Link to the gold coolant? Make sure it doesn't have any additives in it already since it is pre-mixed. In addition, biocides such as PTNuke may not change the overall color of the coolant, but may affect the properties of the coolant.

EDIT: You could use yellow tubing such as this or this, then use distilled water with PTNuke.

PT Nuke is copper sulphate so it will eat UV effects, but shouldn't change color. PT Nuke PHN on the other hand is benzyl chloride which will obliterate dyes.
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Originally Posted by bounti View Post

I haven't been able to find a gold coolant as hard as I've tried. I remember reading about an aurora gold coolant a long ago. I would prefer using colored tubing as you suggested, but I can't seem to find the right color. The closest match would be the yellow you linked me to, but that doesn't match the z87 or noctua fans quite as I would like.

Do you know any other options?

Perhaps a different color that might fit or add to the color scheme?

In terms of compatibility, would you say those blocks are all right?

Thank you!

Tygon makes tubing with silver particles in it, that's the closest I can think of but that's silver not gold, and wouldn't let you use nickle with the loop.
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those blocks and rads will be fine together. personally, i wouldnt use a silver coil. some people blame the silver coil for corrosion while others have no problems.

Depends on how often you flush, and how often you have down periods. Silver leaches ions from nickle, stagnant water will ionize more rapidly than water in motion. Frequent drians/refills also inhibits the exchange ions.
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not me personally. a silver coil is used as an anti-bacterial/anti-fungal/anti-life. i use a biocide.
do you know how often those people drained and refilled? do you know what quality and shape the nickle plating was on those who did and didnt have problems? i cant answer these questions either and its easier to use a biocide. 1 less metal in my loop. 3 copper blocks, copper and brass rads (yes they have tin solder like any other rad) and painted brass. i have no reason to throw another metal in my loop. i cant understand why anyone does it. to each his own.

any dead spot not circulating water in a loop using aurora is going to clog/build up. if your tubing leeches plasticizer into your loop, it (the plasticizer) will stick to and block/plug the block fins. the aurora will cling to it and build up and clog your block. it can happen in rads too. the falling out of suspension is the main reason they say it is for temporary use in showpieces and the likes. the new aurora 2 is supposed to be released whenever and will be supposedly safe for 24/7 use.
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not me personally. a silver coil is used as an anti-bacterial/anti-fungal/anti-life. i use a biocide.
do you know how often those people drained and refilled? do you know what quality and shape the nickle plating was on those who did and didnt have problems? i cant answer these questions either and its easier to use a biocide. 1 less metal in my loop. 3 copper blocks, copper and brass rads (yes they have tin solder like any other rad) and painted brass. i have no reason to throw another metal in my loop. i cant understand why anyone does it. to each his own.

any dead spot not circulating water in a loop using aurora is going to clog/build up. if your tubing leeches plasticizer into your loop, it (the plasticizer) will stick to and block/plug the block fins. the aurora will cling to it and build up and clog your block. it can happen in rads too. the falling out of suspension is the main reason they say it is for temporary use in showpieces and the likes. the new aurora 2 is supposed to be released whenever and will be supposedly safe for 24/7 use.


Don't forget the stainless steel impeller base in your pump
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Aurora's particles are 60nm, they aren't going to clog anything, build up perhaps, but there simply isn't any way a particle that small could build up enough to clog a 1mm channel, or .5mm channel it's just way to small. Aurora+ (Aurora 2) already has released, problem is it's being slipstreamed into current inventories so we can't get our hands on it until the old aurora sells out.

But yeah, OP definitely try to avoid adding unnecessary metals to the loop. I wouldn't worry about nickle as most fittings have nickle on them already.
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Don't forget the stainless steel impeller base in your pump
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there ya go. yet another metal to contend with.
as least what i said to him was right, those blocks should be fine together. i'll be getting me some x1 im thinking when i do a drain-n-flush to change out my ddc pcb's. ive been reading to much about rads corroding. i never even put that much thought into it before. also, i was reading another thread where mayhem mick was 'talking' about low quality rads. definitely thinking about the corrosion factor.

good luck with your build bounti thumb.gif
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Thank you both, you've been immensely helpful. I feel far more secure now in deciding. I'll probably end up going with colored tubing and the koolance clear coolant that will maintain my warranty and keep my mind at ease. Now it's about choosing the right color haha thumb.gif
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