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Hey guys I need some help,

Today I began leak testing after completing my loop.

I filled the reservoir up until the top and turned on my pump, the water level was lowering until about half full reservoir and then it stopped, also when my pump is on it makes a loud wooshing sound. I have a D5 on speed 4 and a Bitspower reservoir + mod kit.



Just to verify > This is my reservoir pump combo, I currently have my loop setup on 1 IN and 1 OUT port which are next to each other in the pump top, as you can see in the picture one fitting is an IN port and the other fitting is an OUT port, this is correct right? this should work properly?

My looporder, the out port goes to my Front rad > Ram block > CPU block > Top radiator > GPU block > In port on the pump top.

I've been activly leak testing for hours, I have picked up my case and tilt it in all directions more then 25 times during these long hours.
I also shaked my case during picking it up and bending it in all directions. Sometimes but not always a couple of air bubbles came out of the reservoir.
I have turned my pump on and off a lot after each other sometimes some small bubbles escape but most of the time nothing is happening.

My pump keeps making this terrible wooshing sound, I have neoprene tubing so I cannot see if all my tubes are filled with water, also my I can hear a dripping sound(like waterdrops) in one of my radiators when the pump is running.
My top radiator is definitely not 100% filled with water yet when I tilt the case in al directions I can hear a large chuck of water moving in the top radiator.

Guys I am so frustrated right now you can't imagine I've been building my loop all day, and then leak testing, I wanted to shorcut my 24pin cable but because my case is so small there is no way I could attach the 24pin to my mobo after leak testing so I plugged it directly into my mobo already my D5 is attached to my power supply and my the rpm cable of the D5 is attached to a Cha fan header.

Here's a video of what is happening at the moment which is nothing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMZXOX5iaXQ&feature=youtu.be

Can somebody help me out, I don't know what to do anymore.
Edited by Iniura - 4/1/14 at 3:11pm
    
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post #2 of 12
try taking off the cap on the reservoir and blowing in to the reservoir might force the water through.
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post #3 of 12
Run it on the lowest speed possible too? Seems to me like that would decrease the amount of air present around the pump.
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Originally Posted by Master__Shake View Post

try taking off the cap on the reservoir and blowing in to the reservoir might force the water through.

I can't I don't have access to the top of my reservoir because the top radiator is in the way, I have to figure out a way to do it.
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Run it on the lowest speed possible too? Seems to me like that would decrease the amount of air present around the pump.

I have to figure out a way to do that to because the reservoir is mounted to the bottom of my case and there is only 1 cm under it, so I cannot acces it straight away. I might be able to unscrew the mount, but I hope my tubing stays in the fittings when I position the reservoir higher to change the speed, ugh I have so small space in my case it's terrible working.
    
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Ok I managed to get to the speed knob by unscrewing the mount, going to test again now.

The waterlevel dropped 1 cm, but it remains there, do you think I have an airlock in the lower chamber of my reservoir?
Edited by Iniura - 4/1/14 at 4:02pm
    
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Empty some water out of the res (suck it out with a straw if needed) until the res inlet (the black plastic down tube) is clear of the surface. Try running the pump again and see if that helps.
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Empty some water out of the res (suck it out with a straw if needed) until the res inlet (the black plastic down tube) is clear of the surface. Try running the pump again and see if that helps.

I think I am making progress, the sound of the pump changed considerably, sometimes it's more silent and sometimes it's making a little bit of woosh sound again.

I am not using the top as an inlet, I am using a side IN port as the inlet, although the water now is below the bitspower aqua pipe.
I can still hear the front radiator dripping.

I am going to attach the pump again to the bottom so I can tilt the case again and see if that helps.
    
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Ah, I see.

In that case try reducing the amount of water in the res anyway. One thing that can cause issues is when the res inlet is submerged it can be hard for the air to get back into the res, allowing water to enter the loop. It is a fairly common problem with bay reservoirs in particular.

Obviously with less water in the res you will need to run the pump for a bit, then turn it off and top up the res (or top up as it runs if you can coordinate that well). Don't worry too much about running your pump "dry" for a few seconds, the bearing is lubricated by the water flow, so unless it somehow manages to dry out completely you are not going to do any damage to it.
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This is just normal with tops designed like the Bitspower.

First, the res cap or one of the ports must be open. It won't work without that.

Ideally in a pump/res the return line will connect to the reservoir section so that air can be separated out from the water and the pump gets a smooth supply of water. The Bitspower, when setup like you have it has the return line running directly into the pump. For air to escape out of the lines into the res it has to go into the pump and escape up into the res section while water is trying to get down into the pump at the same time. The result is a lot of air recirculating.

Compared to a different design; like the EK X-res
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Here the return line connects directly to the res section. So it is effectively just like a loop that goes; res - pump - loop - res


The Bitspower is more like


So you just need a lot of patience. Just letting the pump run will probably take a very long time to bleed. Do as much tipping of the case as possible and power cycle the pump a lot.
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Ok, I will try that.

Is it normal for the pump to make such a loud noise during leak testing?, I think the loop is pumping water in circulation now, the reservoir is still not getting lower, this might be because the complete loop is already complety filled? but then again why can I hear the radiator dripping.

I tried tilting the case but there are no more air bubbles coming out of the res anymore. Do I need to let it just run now for a couple hours and hope that the pump stops making noise. The water level might very slowly lower itself now right? jbecause of the last smaller air bubbles coming out?
    
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