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I'm scared because I can't imagine something more evil than an Apple lawyer.
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Shapes aren't innovations and shapes shouldn't be patentable so go bugger of and die in a hole Apple.

Also didn't they say they would stop sueing each other?
    
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I'm scared because I can't imagine something more evil than an Apple lawyer.
Samsung lawyer, the corporation essentially runs/owns South Korea. That puts a massive amount of power into their legal team.
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I don't care how much you hate Apple. How can you so blithely dismiss the very blatant and obvious copying that Samsung has done?

You need only to look at the pictures. But who among the rabid anti-Apple hate club would bother looking at actual facts that might destroy their baseless rage?

If it were any other company than Apple, would you still ignore what happened? Somehow I doubt it.

I would respect your sentiment if it weren't for the obvious either this or that necessitated by your argument.

Apple did not invent the rounded corner rectangular, If anything they stole it from Braun. As for Icons/Tiles they've been around since well pretty much the first button set that needed to carry information but if you're in it for the reference, check your own computer. Using the same information structure on another device does not equate invention, it's just implementation.

Did Samsung copy Apple? Sure.
Should anyone give the slightest about it? Never.

Arguing about Samsung VS Apple is just as inane as the jumped up litigation trying to be known as a court case. Apple has no grounds for calling themselves inventors or right holders and Samsung did copy.
 
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Well if they succeed, can't HP sue the crap out of apple for infringing and stealing the idea of the palm?
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Well if they succeed, can't HP sue the crap out of apple for infringing and stealing the idea of the palm?

How? Didn't the Palm come out after the iPhone?
 
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Here's a quick look at the five features that have Apple and Samsung locked in a $2 billion lawsuit.
Addresses, dates, phone numbers and times appearing as links in text messages


Are you kidding me?
Edited by PirateZ - 4/2/14 at 8:12am
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How? Didn't the Palm come out after the iPhone?

Lol you must be joking lol
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Lol you must be joking lol

Errr.. guess not lol

I never used one, just glanced at the wiki page of it. Perhaps I looked at the wrong page? *shrugs* tongue.gif
 
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Com on...Apple is ridiculous about patenting and arguing around "the feel"...
Sure, they've created a strong precedent in touch smartphones that didn't exist before them - hard to do so, as the tech wasn't there before 2006.

But they were just the most successful of that era, not the 1st. LG and other companies did produce touch smartphones before iOS was introduced.

Did Android take queues from iOS? Of course. Just like iOS got queues by Linux based touch GUIs showcased years before its introduction to the public...they all take queues from the others. And they frikkin should! We should not re-invent the wheel every time folks, and we should not allow for patents that force us to do so.

Patenting horizontal finger movement on a screen? Really?
Patenting rounded edges on a pocketable device? Really? Didn't exist before 2006?
Rounded icons on a grid? Really?

Apple does, even blatantly, copy certain features and design elements.
If Braun was apple, they wouldn't have a single device over the last decade that would stand a chance not being accused of "copying the feel".
The fact that they rush to "patent" each crap they do "cause they can", doesn't make it their original idea. But the law as it stands, has to take their side, unless proven otherwise.

And that's the exact issue: there are far too many vague patents, with no reason to exist other than to block small companies from claim piece of the pie.
A vague patent and a photoshoped or not image is enough for a judge to accept a case, and that's enough for the small company to suddenly face millions in lawyer fees in order to be represented, even if the case is equivalent to proving that elephants don't fly.

And since you cannot prove a negative in an absolute way, in these cases the richest side has lots of leverage to have its way and force settlement as the other side will probably go bankrupt before any final decision is made in court, as they will move from one appeal to the next till the last one is standing.

Apple vs. Samsung gets a lot of publicity, but the case is simple: both have money to burn through, and are big enough so that "any publicity" can be turned into "good publicity".
There are dozens of small companies that have been choked to death by both of those companies, much like many others that act as dictators of the market.

To take sides favoring either, is acknowledging a tiny part of the "dark side" while looking away from the bigger picture.
Either one "wins", there is nothing left into it for "us".

These guys are ruthless. They don't deserve loyalty.
Sure, buy their products if those are what you want, but don't forget that their are in it for the money, not to cater for you.
Going for the lesser evil should be called by its name.
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