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I was waiting to read this lol.
If you actually read the post, he said, you want energy efficient, 8350 is horrible. Therefore, he said that the 8350 is horrible if you want to have a more energy efficient rig, which it really is. Also the heat it produces is terrible (cant say much for haswell either) because of the high wattage. CPU speed wasn't even mentioned.

He actually said if you want a powerhouse and energy efficient you won't find it in amd. The 8350 is horrible. Didn't say is bad at energy-efficient or lots of heat, just said horrible.
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Suggest are all great. Here's from me.

CPU: FX-8350
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD3/ASUS M5A99FX PRO R2.0 (budget boards for good OC) OR ASUS Sabertooth R2.0 (it is nearly same as Crosshair V Formula Z but without Intel NIC, no on-board sound card and no ROG banner)
RAM: G.Skill Sniper F3-14900CL9D-8GBSR
PSU: Rosewill Capstone 750W, you can go for modular (Too much, but you said to buy a crazy GPU later on, so this is a good investment)
Cooler: NZXT Kraken X40, one amongst the best single radiator CLC OR Noctua NH-U14S, one of the best air-cooler, the Phanteks PH-TC14PE is the best air cooler I guess?
Graphics: AMD R9 270/270X is good for fHD gaming, you can go for something crazy afterwards (like the AMD Vesuvius OR TitanZ, craziest options tongue.gif)
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Well like I said, forget the energy efficient aspect, but still require silence! I'm fine with it being more beefy as long as it is still cool and quiet.

If you are dead set on AMD and are ruling out OCing, but still want a quiet system without a ton of full (custom loop). I'd recommend an FX-9370, an ASUS Sabertooth 99FX R2, and either an NZXT Kraken X60 or a Swiftech H220. I am not at all confident in any single fan radiators for controlling high clocked FX eight-core parts with anything resembling low noise.

If you are considering OCing, same as above, but ditch the FX-9370 for an FX-8350 or 8320.
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The best way to get an AMD FX rig to run efficiently (a prerequisite for silence) is with precision performance tuning in the BIOS.

I hate to say it, the only part about this build that AMD is going to be better at doing is being an AMD build. If that goal trumps everything else and this is always going to be a single GPU system, then I suggest the FX-6300 or FX-8350 with a Noctua D14 or CM Nepton 280L or Phanteks PH-TC14PE on the Asus M5A97 R2.0.

Avoid the 220W units. On the 125-95W units you can always fall back on APM to use as a "quick and dirty" way to "fix" the noise generated by a more aggressive overclock. (it will pull back voltage and clock speeds automatically under parallel workloads, which can help keep the system running quietly while still maintaining a high overclock to benefit less threaded workloads. )



If you're not going to do BIOS performance tuning to find an good balance of compute efficiency and performance, then there's really no point, as the machine will always fall short of the gaming performance and silence that could have been achieved by just throwing an i5 or E3 in there on a basic B85 board.


I personally really enjoy the more sophisticated sort of performance tuning options on the AMD platform. It's more fun. Like buying a kit car or a 4x4 and purposely modifying the heck out of it, and having as much fun during the modification as you have enjoying the end result. If you don't leverage this part of the AMD platform, and make a list of things you want to do that would all run faster and quieter on Intel, then you're sort of missing out on what makes this platform attractive.
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If you don't want to overclock then I would get a 9590. Comes stock at 4.7ghz. Pick up a Corsair h100i and two extra 4 pin pwm fans for push/pull to keep it nice and cool. The 9xxx series are just highly binned 8350's. If you do happen to decide you want to overclock then save some money and get a 8350 along with a h100i. Most can easily hit 4.6ghz. I have mine running at 4.4ghz with just a small bump in voltage. If you really want quiet then noctua d14 is a good cooler. Should be able to hit 4.4ghz on a 8350 just fine with it. Newegg right now has a $20 promo code for the 8350.

Asus m5a99fx r2 (6+2) and sabertooth 990fx r2 (8+2) are great motherboards. Asrock 990fx extreme9 (8+2) is really nice as well.

Corsair hx650 or seasonic x650 are great power supplies. Anything from seasonic really.


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If you want a quiet system I highly recommend getting 4 pin pwm fans and 4 pin pwm splitters for you can connect more per header. 4 pin pwm fans control their rpm based on your cpu temperature. So when the computer is at idle or or under light load like daily tasks then the fans spin low. When they get under heavier load they increase. I replaced all my old 3 pin fans with new bitfenix pwm fans and some splitters and love them! So nice not hearing a jet engine in my room anymore.
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At stock speeds the 8350's I have are much easier to cool than the 9370. Running prime 95 on the 8350 , 240mm clc I can keep temps in the middle 40's with my fans set on silent. That's at 1.38V with LLC set to maintain that voltage. The 9370 has a VID of 1.538V , but can run prime at voltages down to 1.428 at 4.7 ghz, but it requires the fans to be running much faster to stay cool. The 9370 pulls quite a bit more power at stock settings under full load, a rate higher than it's gain in performance over the 8350.

If you want to run lots of ram at high speeds and tight timings it's hard for me to recommend anything but the Sabretooth or CHV-Z.
I can run 8 gbs dual channel at 2600mhz cl12 1T on Hyperx beasts using the CHV-Z and 16 gb's (4x4) at 2400mhz cl11 1T.

I have Asrock, MSI and Asus 990FX boards , the CHV-Z is far and away the best in that area.
I have no experience with Gigabyte boards, maybe one of the owners could chime in with their experiences with ram etc.


If I had to recommend a setup based on your guidelines combined with my personal experiences, I think I would go with the 8320 , put the money saved by not going with a 9XXX chip into the CHV-Z or Sabre, or start with a good kit of dual channel ram and an 120 GB SSD for the OS. A 240 mm clc should quietly keep the chips cool with up to a 1 ghz overclock over base frequency.

A lot will depend on the silicone lottery, but the 8xxx's do have good potential.
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If you don't want to overclock then I would get a 9590. Comes stock at 4.7ghz. Pick up a Corsair h100i and two extra 4 pin pwm fans for push/pull to keep it nice and cool.

The H100i is not especially good for the noise level and the 9590 is an unjustifiably large jump in price from the parts below it, IMO. It's a full 100 dollars more than the 9370.
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a rate higher than it's gain in performance over the 8350.

This is a given. Even if they were binned better, diminishing returns in performance per watt will be reached well below the stock clocks of the slowest member of the Vishera family.

I still think the 9370 is the sweet spot for this build, since the OP is apparently ruling out OCing all together.
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The H100i is not especially good for the noise level and the 9590 is an unjustifiably large jump in price from the parts below it, IMO. It's a full 100 dollars more than the 9370.
This is a given. Even if they were binned better, diminishing returns in performance per watt will be reached well below the stock clocks of the slowest member of the Vishera family.

I still think the 9370 is the sweet spot for this build, since the OP is apparently ruling out OCing all together.
Based on? My H100 was very quiet (I think i got one of the bad ones, the pump is getting some coil whine, they are fixed now).
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Based on?

Reviews and comparisons vs. other 2x120 and 2x140 CLCs.

Yes, the H100i can be quiet, but at the same noise level, there are other coolers that perform better.
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X5670 @ 4.4/3.2GHz core/uncore, 1.36 vcore, 1.2... Gigabyte X58A-UD5 r2.0 w/FF3mod10 BIOS Reference R9 290X w/Stilt's MLU 1000e / 1375m E... 2x Samsung MV-3V4G3D/US @ 2000, 10-11-11-30-T1,... 
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Noctua NH-D14 Windows 7 Pro x64 SP1 Antec TP-750 Fractal Design R5 
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ASUS Xonar DS 
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Reviews and comparisons vs. other 2x120 and 2x140 CLCs.

Yes, the H100i can be quiet, but at the same noise level, there are other coolers that perform better.
Yes but with stock fans, or aftermarket ones? Aftermarket fans make the difference, trust me. I switched to my Swiftech's and I never heard the thing again (til the pump whine, but thats due to the period that I bought mine)
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