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If you don't want to overclock then I would get a 9590. Comes stock at 4.7ghz. Pick up a Corsair h100i and two extra 4 pin pwm fans for push/pull to keep it nice and cool.

The H100i is not especially good for the noise level and the 9590 is an unjustifiably large jump in price from the parts below it, IMO. It's a full 100 dollars more than the 9370.
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a rate higher than it's gain in performance over the 8350.

This is a given. Even if they were binned better, diminishing returns in performance per watt will be reached well below the stock clocks of the slowest member of the Vishera family.

I still think the 9370 is the sweet spot for this build, since the OP is apparently ruling out OCing all together.

There's a significant voltage wall to the 8 core Vishera's i've owned , below it they run reasonably cool , above it, they make a lot of heat. By design or coincedence, that wall is about where my 9370 clockspeed and VID are.

Performance wise, I'd agree about the 9370 being the sweet spot (especially for a non overclocker), but if my 9370 is a representitive sample, they are a challenge to cool silently.

It might be interesting to see how far I could undervolt the 9370 and still run 8350 speeds.
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post #32 of 44
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The H100i is not especially good for the noise level and the 9590 is an unjustifiably large jump in price from the parts below it, IMO. It's a full 100 dollars more than the 9370.
This is a given. Even if they were binned better, diminishing returns in performance per watt will be reached well below the stock clocks of the slowest member of the Vishera family.

I still think the 9370 is the sweet spot for this build, since the OP is apparently ruling out OCing all together.

That's why I wrote and recommended the noctua d14 after I talked about the h100i. If he really wants as quiet as he can get with good cooling at max loads its the best one to get. It's much quieter than the h100i with fans at max rpms and provides near AIO performance.
Edited by orlfman - 4/3/14 at 2:25pm
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post #33 of 44
Get an 8320 with a 212 EVO, a mobo with a decent VRM design, a GTX 770, the cheapest 8GB RAM kit you can find, a sufficient PSU, and any case that will fit all of this. Overclock the CPU to 4.5GHz and you're set.
 
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If you don't want to overclock then I would get a 9590. Comes stock at 4.7ghz. Pick up a Corsair h100i and two extra 4 pin pwm fans for push/pull to keep it nice and cool.

The H100i is not especially good for the noise level and the 9590 is an unjustifiably large jump in price from the parts below it, IMO. It's a full 100 dollars more than the 9370.
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a rate higher than it's gain in performance over the 8350.

This is a given. Even if they were binned better, diminishing returns in performance per watt will be reached well below the stock clocks of the slowest member of the Vishera family.

I still think the 9370 is the sweet spot for this build, since the OP is apparently ruling out OCing all together.

There's a significant voltage wall to the 8 core Vishera's i've owned , below it they run reasonably cool , above it, they make a lot of heat. By design or coincedence, that wall is about where my 9370 clockspeed and VID are.

Performance wise, I'd agree about the 9370 being the sweet spot (especially for a non overclocker), but if my 9370 is a representitive sample, they are a challenge to cool silently.

It might be interesting to see how far I could undervolt the 9370 and still run 8350 speeds.

I tried undervolting and running prime 95 at the 4.2 ghz turbo speed of the 8350 on all 8 cores of my 9370. 1.26V is where core 6 failed. I didn't have it set up on a wattage meter, it might have been interesting to know.
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I tried undervolting and running prime 95 at the 4.2 ghz turbo speed of the 8350 on all 8 cores of my 9370. 1.26V is where core 6 failed. I didn't have it set up on a wattage meter, it might have been interesting to know.

Should be about 150W at the chip clocked there with that voltage.
     
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I tried undervolting and running prime 95 at the 4.2 ghz turbo speed of the 8350 on all 8 cores of my 9370. 1.26V is where core 6 failed. I didn't have it set up on a wattage meter, it might have been interesting to know.

Should be about 150W at the chip clocked there with that voltage.

Thanks for the information smile.gif
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post #37 of 44
If you are not going to over clock and want something powerful, efficient and quiet why not just get a locked i5 that even at stock is going to be faster most of the time? After factoring in the price for an after market cooler to make the 83XX run silent you are going to be spending just as much as an i5 that doesn't need an aftermarket cooler to run quietly. What you are asking of your system screams intel is the logical choice but you keep screaming AMD lol. Don't get me wrong I love my AMD rig for it's bang for buck. That said I know that bang comes at the cost of noise and power and the buck comes at the cost of being a bit slower than mid-high range intel stuff.
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I think OP forgot about this thread, I believe he has went with an intel rig (he started another thread in the intel section). He went with an E3-1230v3.
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I think OP forgot about this thread, I believe he has went with an intel rig (he started another thread in the intel section). He went with an E3-1230v3.

So basically the PERFECT CPU for what he wanted out of his machine lol. Strange he was so insistent on AMD in this thread. I am actually looking at snagging an E30-1230v3 myself. Killer chip for the $$
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So basically the PERFECT CPU for what he wanted out of his machine lol. Strange he was so insistent on AMD in this thread. I am actually looking at snagging an E30-1230v3 myself. Killer chip for the $$
Yup. Lucky me I remembered, he was going to go with a 4770k, which would have been a hot mess (pun intended). biggrin.gif
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