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Thread Starter 
Me and a friend had a small arguement the other days about this and was wondering what u tought.

On a limited bugdet. What would u sacrifice.

Cheaper mobo and better cpu

Cheaper cpu and better mobo

Or would compromise and even between the 2

Im saving im atm for a mobo and cpu upgrade. I juste plan on saving more and buying higher end but im just curious what you guys would do if given the choice

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post #2 of 5
The cpu is going to be limited by the board it's installed in, at least when dealing with so called "budget" MB's I've always tried to get the best bang for the buck and have come up short on MB performance more often than cpu performance.

Get the best MB you can and then gamble on the silicone lottery.

A year ago I bought a GA990fxaud3, it gets the job done OK but with the same cpu in a CHVFZ I get another 10%, at double the MB price. Now that my crosshair/9590 is complete and running great I want to go back to the GA990fxa/8350 and try a different MB. I would like to try a GA UD5 or UD7 or a Sabertooth, maybe even a asrock.
post #3 of 5
Thread Starter 
Awsome. I knew mobo's limited cpu overclock but didnt know it limited cpu general performance. Good thing to know

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post #4 of 5
Always a better motherboard over processor.

Your motherboard is exactly that, a motherboard, it handles everything in the system. If you get a cheap-ass board that cost you $50 and decide to pair it with an FX-8350 and a R9 290x, not only will you be severely limited on how it all performs but you will also kill your board doing that. A $50 board is ment to handle the small stuff, such as a FX-4300 and a R7 260.
Edited by PsYcHo29388 - 4/2/14 at 10:54am
post #5 of 5
There are so many really decently made budget motherboards to choose from that it shouldn't even be an area of contention. Pick from a high value well made motherboard that is inexpensive, and then use the money saved to buy a good CPU (or good CPU cooling for overclocking): The only significant area of performance differences on motherboards is when high TDP chips are placed on very low end boards that are forced to throttle the CPU to prevent overheating the VRMs. Beyond that performance scaling from a motherboard is only possible from a few key areas. Overclocking potential and PCIE lane configuration for multiple GPU support, which plateaus way below the "high end" unless combined with exotic and expensive cooling solutions.

Sure there are lots of junk motherboards under $75. But if you know which one to pick, there are also a few that are fantastic.

AMD:

FM2+: Every FM2+ A88 board around $100 is built like a tank. You can overclock just fine on these and there will be no performance related holdups. You can't even spend more than ~$120 on an FM2+ board, doesn't exist. There are some cheap gems like the Biostar A88M-6.2 for around $65 and ASRock FM2A88X Extreme4+ for $80 that are built very well in their class and can handle performance tuning. A $120 "top of the line" FM2+ motherboard will not improve any measurable metric by more than a few percent over the 2 budget boards I have highlighted here unless they are combined with much more expensive cooling.

AM3+:
I paid $50 for my UD3P at MC. Need I say more? If that's not an option, the M5A97 R2.0 and UD3P normally sell for $90 elsewhere. These are robust feature rich performance class boards for under $100. Either is good for about 200W+ worth for overclocking without a problem, which means FX-6300@~5ghz or FX-8320@4.5+ghz. The "gem" of cheap boards is the GIGABYTE GA-78LMT-USB3, good for up to around 140W worth of fun (semi-respectable overclock on an FX-6300). If you have access to a MC and are in the market for the 6300 get the combo with the UD3P.

Good 990FX boards start around $120 and performance tuning will start to plateau at ~$180 worth of a motherboard here. The few enthusiast class boards above this level will only show advantages (and they will be narrow) when implemented with custom water loops etc.



Intel

Around or under $100 (some as low as $60) non-overclocking 1150 socket boards that can run flagship E3/i7 chips without causing any meaningful performance limitations:
Gigabyte GA-H81.Amp-UP, Biostar Hi-Fi B85S3+ Ver. 6.x, Gigabyte GA-B85M-D3H, ASRock B85 Killer, Gigabyte G1.Sniper B5, MSI CSM-H87M-G43, MSI H87-G43, ASRock H87 Pro4, Gigabyte GA-H87M-D3H, ASUS H87M-E, ASUS H87-PLUS, Gigabyte GA-H87-D3H, ASUS VANGUARD B85,

Well made overclocking capable 1150 socket boards with SLI support for under ~$130: Any of these boards combined with a $50-100 CPU cooler and a "K" model chip will get performance to within 5-10% of what you could do on a $300 board and hundreds of dollars worth of custom cooling.
MSI Z87-G55, ASRock Z87 Extreme3, ASRock Z87M Extreme4Gigabyte GA-Z87MX-D3H, ASRock Z87 Extreme4, MSI Z87-G45 Gaming, Gigabyte GA-Z87X-D3H, Gigabyte GA-Z87X-HD3, ASRock Fatal1ty Z87 Killer, Asus Z87-A, ASRock Z87 Extreme6



As long as the motherboard is robust enough in the VRM department to run the chip at the speeds intended without thermal problems, and has the other features that the build requires (I/O), then there is no tangible performance penalty to selecting a less expensive option. Save the "high end (>$180 boards) for novelty class competition performance tuning builds, or builds that are not price sensitive.
Edited by mdocod - 4/4/14 at 3:09pm
     
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
FX-8350 990X EVO R2.0 Sparkle GTX460 768MB ballistix tactical 2 x 8GB 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Toshiiba THNSNH 256GB Enterprise RE3 1TB Asus BD combo drive Artic A30 
OSMonitorMonitorMonitor
Manjaro Linux Samsung 21.5" LCD E2009WFP E2009WFP 
PowerCase
Seasonic G 550W Modular Fractal Design Core 3500 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
FX-6300, 4.7 GHZ@1.43V GA-970A-UD3P GTX 460 768MB Mixed DIMMs. 2x4GB + 2x8GB @ 1600-8-8-8 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Toshiba THNSNH 19nm 256GB 1TB Spinpoint F3 WD RE3 1TB WD RE3 1TB 
Optical DriveCoolingOSOS
yes CM Seidon 120V SolydK OpenSuse 13.1 
OSOSMonitorMonitor
Linux Mint 9-32 bit // Linux Mint 17-64 bit  Manjaro Xfce Samsung 21.5" HannsG 21.5" sideways! 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Sticky ATNG Rosewill Green 630W NZXT Gamma Basic Microsoft corded 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
A10-6800k 4.8GHZ @ 1.375V, 1.2GHZ iGPU Gigabyte GA-F2A85XN-WIFI HD8670D Ripjaws 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Seagate ST1000DM003 Asus BC-12B1ST/BLK/B/AS Zalman CNPS5X Linux Mint 15 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
LG IPS224V-PN Logitec K360 FSP 400W Aurum S 80+ gold Prodigy 
Mouse
logitec M235 
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