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Hey OP check this deal

http://slickdeals.net/permadeal/117476/newegg---fractal-design-define-r4-silent-atx-mid-tower-case
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I think the Xeon E3-1230 v3 is better for your purposes than a 4670k,. Also OCing the 4670k defeats the purpose of going "silent" since you will change the fan speed profile to a higher level, making the fans produce more noise. Just putting this out for more info since I read that you are not going to OC. Lastly, Xeon is techinically an i7, with a bit lower power consumption, also its integrated graphics is disabled, and has a 100mhz lower clock from an i7 4770.

The PSU is great, but depending on your graphics card, a 550w variant of it should be good enough for you. It is modular and $5 cheaper as well.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182262

You do not need an H80i for your CPU cooler, its stock fan is noisy when the processor is being loaded. I think a tower heatsink with a quiet fan should be great for your purposes, something like this:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835608040

You can actually buy an SSD now, the Crucial M500 is a great budget SSD, if you do not mind spending abit more, the M550 is its upgrade version.

Regarding the HDD, I kinda prefer multiple 1TBs over a single 3TB. I had a 2TB Barracuda not so long ago, and it already has bad sectors after seldomly using it for a few months since the HDD is strictly for backup/storage. You have a huge case anyway!


All in all, these are my recommendations for you, assuming you want ATX form factor (im kinda biased with mATX though), I hope you don't mind its color scheme though, since I'm into performance over looks thingy. I could replace the parts if you do mind a color scheme inside your case.
 
  • CPU: Xeon E3-1230 V3 $249.99
  • COOL: Noctua U12S $69.99
  • MOBO: Asrock H87 Fatal1ty Performance $99.99
  • RAM: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB 1600mhz $74.99
  • GPU: HIS R9 280x IceQ X2 $319.99
  • SSD: Crucial M500 240GB $119.99
  • HDD: Seagate Barracuda 3TB $109.99
  • PSU: Roswill Capstone 650w $89.99
  • CASE: FD Define R4 Blackout $99.99

TOTAL PRICE: $1234.91 No budget was stated, so this is the best price to performance rig that I came up with. Also, I only checked on Newegg, so other stores with the same part could actually be cheaper, thus reducing its total price!
 
  • Xeon because I already explained it above. I too, will get my hands on this processor someday!
  • U12S has great cooling capability, NF-F12 is quieter than H80i stock fan, and $30 cheaper. We can replace this with something cheaper, let me know.
  • H87 Fatal1ty performance has great features for its price.
  • Ballistix Sport is a great RAM, no doubt. It is a great OC ram too but you do not need to OC it. Add another stick for 16GB in the future!
  • HIS 280x is a great price/performance GPU, it runs cool and quiet in my experience. I built several rigs with these cards and they are great specially I live in a tropical country where at least 30C ambient temps are normal.
  • M500 is a great budget SSD, as I stated above. You can temporarily ditch this or get a 120GB variant if the price is too much for you since you're not really going to put any games on it, because productivity programs (like Photoshop) and OS has better benefits than putting games in it. Samsung 840 EVO is a great alternative as well but a bit more expensive.
  • Did not change the 3TB Barracuda because maybe I only had bad experiences with big capacity HDDs.
  • Did not also change the PSU for your peace of mind. Although a 550w Capstone can run this rig pretty much fine.
  • I randomly picked a case in your link xD I had built an mATX variant of it though, the Define Mini. And it surprised me how great is that case is in terms of everything.
  • I did not include an Optical Drive since I assumed you already have one in your old computer. Waste of money buying a new one and IMHO there is no need to use an Optical Drive nowadays. I never used one in any of the rigs I built.

 

Thank you for your detailed input, I'm sold on the CPU now! Actually, I'm sold on most of your suggestions! In fact I updated my original post. Check out the motherboards section, and let me know what you think between the two. If it's not worth the extra money, or the Sabertooth won't keep the computer more cool, then it's probably not worth it. I'm looking for quiet and cool(summer days get hot in my room). Which is why I may also go with that card suggestion. Is it easy to overclock RAM? And I'm fine with that cooler, Cosmetics don't mean anything to me. But there's like a few different variations of that cooler, what's that about?

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You're welcome thumb.gif

I would definitely go with the Asrock than the Sabretooth. Cant really justify its price since you're not really going to overclock or downclock/downvolt. Also, with that extra 140usd, i rather spend it somewhere better, meaning there will be actual improvements in your system, like changing your RAM to 8gb x2 instead of a single 8GB stick. or few more case fans, or gpu (not really), the list goes on...

Not sure what you mean about "different variations" but, if you are talking about types of CPU cooler, like single tower, low profile, All-In-One liquid cooler, custom loop etc. the AIO coolers that has been the "trend" recently is good and all, but its no better than the top tier tower coolers at almost the same price. Also, AIO coolers has a chance to leak or pump failure as well, compared to tower coolers, where you only need to worry is if the fans are still spinning or not after some point in time and it is easily replaceable. For custom loops which purpose is to cranking up the processor or graphics card up to the limit (and also for bling factor), they are in a different league and alot more expensive as well, so i wont be needing to go further with that and you pretty much don't need it smile.gif

I personally think overclocking the RAM is the hardest, i barely touch the RAM unless i want further tighten its timing, but usually i just use the XMP profile, which is the EZ mode for overclocking the ram.
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You're welcome thumb.gif

I would definitely go with the Asrock than the Sabretooth. Cant really justify its price since you're not really going to overclock or downclock/downvolt. Also, with that extra 140usd, i rather spend it somewhere better, meaning there will be actual improvements in your system, like changing your RAM to 8gb x2 instead of a single 8GB stick. or few more case fans, or gpu (not really), the list goes on...

Not sure what you mean about "different variations" but, if you are talking about types of CPU cooler, like single tower, low profile, All-In-One liquid cooler, custom loop etc. the AIO coolers that has been the "trend" recently is good and all, but its no better than the top tier tower coolers at almost the same price. Also, AIO coolers has a chance to leak or pump failure as well, compared to tower coolers, where you only need to worry is if the fans are still spinning or not after some point in time and it is easily replaceable. For custom loops which purpose is to cranking up the processor or graphics card up to the limit (and also for bling factor), they are in a different league and alot more expensive as well, so i wont be needing to go further with that and you pretty much don't need it smile.gif

I personally think overclocking the RAM is the hardest, i barely touch the RAM unless i want further tighten its timing, but usually i just use the XMP profile, which is the EZ mode for overclocking the ram.

very good point. I'm on my phone now so I'll try and explain the best what I meant. I went on newegg looking at that core and found similar ones but different variants of it. like one had two fans. the other had fans in different spots. all made by the same company.

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Different models cater for different cases or uses.

Some are dual towers (like Noctua D14) where you can put up to 3 fans on the heatsink to achieve better cooling performance. This is usually used for overclocking the processor and does not want to go AIO liquid cooling route.

C-type coolers (Noctua C14) for smaller cases, but can also go with normal-sized cases as well. This one can cool most of the motherboard parts since the fan is facing onto the motherboard unlike tower coolers.

Single-tower coolers or U type-coolers (U12S/U14S) can do similar thing as a dual tower cooler, but less on space restriction since it is not too wide or too long. You can also use another fan at the back for push-pull config to squeeze abit of cooling performance, but that is entirely optional. U12S is Noctua's latest model and it also has a better perfoming stock fan (from U12P) i think.

Low-profile coolers (L9i) is for small-form factor cases where there is severe restriction on the height clearance of a case where one cannot put tower coolers or even C-type coolers. This is also sometimes used if one is on a budget, and cannot stand the noise of their stock Intel or AMD cooler.

There is also fanless heatsink (i dont think noctua has one) where you can use the heatsink as is, and not install any fans at all, maybe except exhaust fan inside the case.

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The u14s isn't the newest one? Its bigger than the u12s

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835608041
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U14s is not the same as U12s because they have different size even though they are both the same U-type cooler. I was comparing the U12S from U12P which has similar size and also the U12S being the update model from U12P if i am not mistaken.

edit typos wow
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Oh wow, so this company actually gives a wide variety of solutions. I like that. I'm comparing the bigger one to the one mentioned before. Looks like the bigger one is also a little bit louder. So should I be okay with the smaller one mentioned before(http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835608040)? I mean, without overclocking, will it stay nice and cool even under heavy loads? I understand if there is a lot processing and going out, there's going to be some noise. I just want it to idle at dead silent.

 

EDIT: And oh! Should i go with different RAM since I don't plan on overclocking? Is it bad to have 8GB sticks? I'm looking to do at least 16GB+ when this build is all done.


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Oh wow, so this company actually gives a wide variety of solutions. I like that. I'm comparing the bigger one to the one mentioned before. Looks like the bigger one is also a little bit louder. So should I be okay with the smaller one mentioned before(http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835608040)? I mean, without overclocking, will it stay nice and cool even under heavy loads? I understand if there is a lot processing and going out, there's going to be some noise. I just want it to idle at dead silent.

EDIT: And oh! Should i go with different RAM since I don't plan on overclocking? Is it bad to have 8GB sticks? I'm looking to do at least 16GB+ when this build is all done.
Personally I've never used crucial, but I hear they are pretty good. a single 8GB stick isnt very good, I would highly recommend getting at least 2 sticks right off the bat.

But I do have to mention, you cant overclock the CPU, why are you buying an $70 cooler? Just get one of the layflat ones I suggested and put a quiet fan on it biggrin.gif That way it also doesnt get in anythings way.
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Agree that if you have the budget, go 8gb x2 right off the bat.

You can change the RAM if you like but I like Crucial since they make their own RAMs, just like Seasonic and Superflower makes their own PSUs. You do not need to overclock the RAM, just set it through the "correct settings" using XMP profile through BIOs. It should take no more than few mouse clicks and few mouse scrolls smile.gif

Just stating that Crucial RAMs are also good for OCing (manually tighten the timings, instead of XMP profile)

I recommended U12S because the Xeon still tends to get hot in my experience at full load, I'm guessing that it is due to hyperthreading. I built one for a friend before. Although I live in a different country than you guys do which has probably cooler climate smile.gif

You can change the U12S with something like this:
http://www.amazon.com/Thermalright-BW-Support-Socket-Driver/dp/B008YTUN38/
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B009MS326U/?tag=pcpapi-20

This has already a great performing fan, so no need to buy a new fan. It is also $20 cheaper than U12S, and performs close than a U12S. Buying a cheaper HSF (like hyper 212) and buying another fan (stock fan is loud at full load) will be priced almost the same as the CPU cooler above. The stock fan is just as quiet than Noctua's
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