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M$ used to include things like classic shell.

Remember how you could make vista looks like this for instance



People wanted choice. The option to run win 8 as an traditional desktop without metro crap. If they had simply made win 8 configurable then nobody would have complained.

But no M$ had to go with the uniformity over all platforms mentality. I does not take an genius to understand that what works for an 7" tablet does not work equally well for an workstation with three 24" monitors.

This is what I've said this whole time. Just give users the choice to use their computers as they want and everyone would have been happy. And it should have been blatantly obvious to Microsoft of all people to know and understand that mashing multiple paradigms ( desktop and touch ) is a bad idea.

All they had to do was allow people to choose between the new interface they had and wanted to introduce, and the older tried and true interface with all the newer metro / charms / touch etc crap disabled.

But they wanted to FORCE their view on people and are obviously seeing that their plan was flawed. You simply can't make such a substantial change to the face of the operating system. All the improvements under the hood don't mean anything if the user interface is simply not worth anything in terms of the desktop / workstation users.

And it should be noted for all the people that want to say " you didn't give it a chance " or the likely idiotic reasons. I have multiple Windows 8 and Windows RT tablets. And for them, it's fine, it works on touch with absolutely no problem and I like them better than the current alternative of well... Android, and I haven't felt like installing Linux on them as I see no need although that may be in the works as a project when I find time. I have also spent a good amount of time on my mothers laptop that came with Windows 8, and just could not do it. It simply didn't work.
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It was that article I tried, in vain, to follow, it doesn't work, it displays the error message above.

Odd, there's also this one:

http://betanews.com/2013/10/21/download-the-windows-8-1-iso-using-a-windows-8-key-and-some-simple-trickery/

People that have had the same sort of problems have stated that this method works for them.

Thanks, but it doesn't work. I've tried it just now again. The error shown in the image I posted above from the 8.1 installer also happens with the 8 installer, so the whole thing stops for me right at the beginning. I presume this is happening because I already once (in 2012) downloaded the ISO with this method and it now probably has written some obscure registry key preventing me from downloading more copies of the ISO. That's why I said I might have to try it on another computer to see if it works.

But thanks again.
 
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Microsoft is kinda bringing the start menu back
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It will be an improvement. I hope they continue down the right path.
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Then you guys can rot with Windows 7.

It's not that hard to use the tiles. And this seems perfect for all you GIMME CLASSIC or nothing ppl.

you are correct, tiles aren't hard to use, assuming you are talking about these:



I kid of course, but I think people should be able to use the original start menu if they want.
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Microsoft is kinda bringing the start menu back
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I still don't understand why the following logic was not applied in the first place:

 

If screen = touch, set metro to be on by default.

If screen ≠ touch, set start menu to be on by default. 

 

This would have solved some of the initial problems for them I think (while still allowing MS to push/test the Metro interface). I am very happy to see this new style of start menu though!


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Could you fix the window text color bug too..

Black theme = black text on windows = Unreadable.
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Am I the only one that finds it slightly amusing that the thread about a start button has 3x the amount of comments that the actual key note thread itself. People are more interested in a start button than Cortana, universal apps, etc?! OCN, where did you go??
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Am I the only one that finds it slightly amusing that the thread about a start button has 3x the amount of comments that the actual key note thread itself. People are more interested in a start button than Cortana, universal apps, etc?! OCN, where did you go??

 

I could be wrong but it feels like, for many people, the start menu is like the foundation of a house. If the foundation is not right, the new siding for your house  is not of much interest. 

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