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Would you guys be interested in trying Windows 8.1 and providing some feedback if I can purchase some additional keys from Microsoft to give away? 

I would try it out if it was free and give some useful feedback
Not sure if I would pay for it thought
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Would you guys be interested in trying Windows 8.1 and providing some feedback if I can purchase some additional keys from Microsoft to give away? 

Yeah I'll give you my feedback since I already use it in my rig and I'll put the free copy in my wife's rig and watch her be annoyed to no end tongue.gif
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Would you guys be interested in trying Windows 8.1 and providing some feedback if I can purchase some additional keys from Microsoft to give away? 

I work on it everyday at work, so for me, I don't have much interest. It actually is easier to work on (in some ways) than previous versions of Windows, but I just don't see that much of an advantage for me as a user.

Don't get me started on the MS Account crap...or worse, "secure boot".

And while I'm on a rant-- Hey stupid people! Stop downloading and installing every single toolbar you can find! Thank you.
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Huzzah, the only real issue I had with Windows 8 is being fixed! Still can't justify the price to upgrade so I shall wait till whatever version of Windows that has the start button again comes out.
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Meh, you could always just right click the corner in windows 8. People that think they NEED the start menu either haven't tried 8 or just bandwagon hate on stuff they no nothing about.

I'm using 8 right now and have been for months. I've tried to use Metro and in my opinion, for my workflow it is completely crap. This exact post has been posted countless times since 8's release and has been disproven every single time. It's exactly why people who prefer the Start Menu get so annoyed with this, a lot of people who defend 8 seem to have zero idea that the way they use a computer isn't universal. Take opening recently used documents for example, it's one I stick to simply because it's black and white: 7 has jump lists to go straight into it, 8 requires you to either pin it to the Taskbar (Not always suitable. I'd rather not spam my task-bar with crap that I only open periodically) or just live with opening the program, then the file.

There's also that Metro (IMO) looks like it was designed by a colour-blind 3 year old until you customize it.
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I love how so many people say Win8 is a terrible OS because "tiles are ugly to me." Uh, that's opinion guys and you know what they say about opinions? That is not a legitimate excuse to call it a horrible OS...

It being a horrible or great OS is subjective, though.
From a technical standpoint, Linux is a great OS however that doesn't take into account looks, how well the user can actually use it, etc. Considering you'll be seeing the damn thing nearly every day I think saying "I think this is ugly" is a fair enough reason to not want to use 8.
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And your argument that it uses resources is the petty complaint in my eyes. We're not running single core CPUs with 1GB of DDR anymore. Today's PCs are quite capable of allocating the resources to something like Aero Glass without affecting overall system performance in the slightest.

The funny thing is that I ran Vista on an Athlon XP 2600+ with 1GB DDR-400 and it was HDD limited unless I was gaming or the like.
I also literally finished working on a Pentium M (1.6Ghz single core) laptop that ran 7 and it was fine to use..Nearly all the limitation was in the HDD speeds. The only slower CPUs that would be in use for a desktop OS that I can think of are the first few Atoms and they were just as slow in XP or xfce based Linux as they were in 7 for me, only time I'd class one of those as useful is with Puppy Linux or similar on it.
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Having a significant UI change forced on you through the greed of a corporation that legitimately impacts established workflow and comfort is a LEGITIMATE feedback. Just because some people (a very SMALL minority) does not share this frustration does NOT make it crying or any less legitimate. If anything, the people who complained are the TRUE WORTH of consumers because they forced CHANGE and more importantly, were able to allow OPTIONS for EVERYONE. I find people who complain about consumers who voice their feedback and protest to be far inferior as consumers to the people who provide legitimate feedback, stand up for their feedback, and keep at it until change is forced.

Not to mention, he's complaining about us having the option of a real Start Menu. Not Metro being removed entirely or anything, but the option for the majority of Windows users to be able to not have a negative impact from using the latest copy of the OS. That says more about him than I could be bothered writing out.
    
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First of all i used the screen in the picture I showed. I'm not sure if I manually typed it in since I did it once over a year ago (proving how much of a non-issue this is). Not sure why you couldn't have it copied to the clipboard before hand.
Second, I'm not sure why (to you) the success of win8 is based on something so minute almost completely insignificant. But if that is what you have to nitpick in order to show why win8 should be hated on then I think you are proving there is a ton more right with win8 than wrong.

Nope i'm not the only one that noticed it. I did copy it to the clipboard beforehand..a user and pass requires 2 copies...

http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/windows/en-US/f402d94a-1bea-4e77-8944-0f776b494425/entering-vpn-credentials-using-a-complex-username-and-complex-password?forum=w8itpronetworking

People are complaining about it, this is absolutely ridiculous. It's not insignificant, the whole metro concept is ridiculous, a huge productivity flaw, there is zero productivity in metro, it's like some social app, wannabe phone/tablet/desktop. It doesn't know what it wants to be. As soon as I installed windows 8 the producitivty went down tremendously, it also has this stupid auto window re-size, as if users can't figure out what window size they want
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Would you guys be interested in trying Windows 8.1 and providing some feedback if I can purchase some additional keys from Microsoft to give away? 
Absolutely
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Nope i'm not the only one that noticed it. I did copy it to the clipboard beforehand..a user and pass requires 2 copies...

http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/windows/en-US/f402d94a-1bea-4e77-8944-0f776b494425/entering-vpn-credentials-using-a-complex-username-and-complex-password?forum=w8itpronetworking

People are complaining about it, this is absolutely ridiculous. It's not insignificant, the whole metro concept is ridiculous, a huge productivity flaw, there is zero productivity in metro, it's like some social app, wannabe phone/tablet/desktop. It doesn't know what it wants to be. As soon as I installed windows 8 the producitivty went down tremendously, it also has this stupid auto window re-size, as if users can't figure out what window size they want
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It's two text boxes. You need to use the clipboard twice so you have to put focus away from it and onto the text editor or email client or whatever at least once. At losing focus it disappears. It would be no problem if it would be a normal Windows desktop program instead.

Copy both into the first field then copy it again into the second... or just type the darn thing in manually and save it. This is an problem for old non-tech people. I can't believe I'm on OC.net telling people this.
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Copy both into the first field then copy it again into the second... or just type the darn thing in manually and save it. This is an problem for old non-tech people. I can't believe I'm on OC.net telling people this.

I don't think "old non-tech people" would be dealing with VPN's to begin with.

I resorted to the command line. How about that huh, a GUI that's suppose to make things easier and people are resorting to cmd to get around this circus. Don't get too ahead of yourself either. I can navigate unix and windows from the terminal. I wanted you to show everyone how to do it (which you have failed at doing so), showing at least one flaw in windows 8.

So there you have it. One flaw which you have failed to get around and your answer was to paste the user and pass in cleartext into the username box?

And you dare call people old tech? funny guy
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Copy both into the first field then copy it again into the second... or just type the darn thing in manually and save it. This is an problem for old non-tech people. I can't believe I'm on OC.net telling people this.

First solution is technically breaking security. What's the point of having a password when someone could see it by looking over your shoulder? Especially since the majority of the world uses normal words.

Second solution is a great one...If you don't live in reality. If you live in reality, you're going to either end up with ridiculously insecure passwords that the user can remember or passwords that take more than an hour to crack that they most likely can't remember, I'd wager even most of the users here have fairly easy to guess passwords they've also used elsewhere...
    
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