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I am sorry to do this to you Raven, I don't believe you can slipstream 8.1 It isn't an "update". It's a OS release, and installs as if you are upgrading the OS like you would Windows Vista to Windows 7.

Oh? Hmm. Used to be able to with winreducer, which is *pretty much* a better GUI for WAIK. (though, you needed to have the sans-windows store msu file for 8.1, which did exist in certain..sectors). Did that change? There was a big tutorial up and everything. Hmm.
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I already have it. I had it since windows 8 was released.

Big thank you to my problem solving skills I managed to get my start button instead of crying and making excuses.

It is not crying or making excuses, but rather refusing to bend over and waste time learning a completely unnecessary and HUGE UI change made for no good reason. Some people have time to waste trying to get use to the new OS, other people simply prefer not to waste the time getting use to an unnecessary forced change and let MS know what a dumb move it was. Just because someone protests something they don't like does not make it crying or excuse making, just like how people who have time to get use to these new "changes" are not any smarter. Either way, MS has been forced to eat a huge slice of humble pie now that they realized that the vast majority does not like what they tried to force on us and it is great. The consumers have spoken in majority and MS is now finally listening.
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I am sorry to do this to you Raven, I don't believe you can slipstream 8.1 It isn't an "update". It's a OS release, and installs as if you are upgrading the OS like you would Windows Vista to Windows 7.

Oh? Hmm. Used to be able to with winreducer, which is *pretty much* a better GUI for WAIK. (though, you needed to have the sans-windows store msu file for 8.1). Did that change? There was a big tutorial up and everything. Hmm.

Even if you did have the .MSU, I would consider including it pointless. The update itself does a complete replacement of your Windows directory, not just patch. Installing it in a Windows 8 ISO would just run through two full Windows installations back to back.

I haven't seen any evidence that it can be slip streamed though, but the reason, maybe because of what I said above, not because its mechanically impossible.

At that point you would just install the 8.1.iso, IF you can trick it in downloading with your Windows 8 key.
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HUGE UI change

I'd argue that's a huge exaggeration. It may look different, but it functions much in the same way the original start menu did, especially if you're a keyboard shortcut guy like I am:P
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Even if you did have the .MSU, I would consider including it pointless. The update itself does a complete replacement of your Windows directory, not just patch. Installing it in a Windows 8 ISO would just run through two full Windows installations back to back.

Hey man, all I know is there were people doing it and reporting success. I never had the need (MSDN), so it was never an issue.
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So they're just moving the live tiles to a smaller area in order to appease idiots who get confused by a full screen menu?

I hope this is optional. The start screen is perfect for me; I don't need to pretend I'm using Windows 7 in order to enjoy Windows 8.

Ok , i'm not a designer (well, ok, sound designer, you get my point) but I must recomend that you learn a little bit about interface and interaction design so you can understand why people don't like to change interfaces all the time.

I'll leave a (really good) book right here so you can educate yourself on the subject and don't seem so douchy the next time you meet a friend of a friend who's a designer and that will destroy you in an argument about interface/interaction design for user interfaces on personal computers.

http://www.designinginteractions.com/.

There.
Read it, it will make you a better person.
Really.
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Yay... a Step backwards biggrin.gif
    
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Yay... a Step backwards biggrin.gif

When the first step forward was a big dumb mistake, taking a step backwards is a smart thing. You don't tell a guy about to jump off a bridge/building to take another step forward do you? Same with the guy walking towards the light. biggrin.gif
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Finally! Glad to see them bringing it back! Windows 8 wont suck so much anymore!
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When the first step forward was a big dumb mistake, taking a step backwards is a smart thing. You don't tell a guy about to jump off a bridge/building to take another step forward do you? Same with the guy walking towards the light. biggrin.gif

For the people to silly to not figure it out. Now we are going to get viruses to lock the taskbar again yay... rendering the start button useless ... yay! biggrin.gifthumb.gif


when I have issues I press the start menu and it takes me completely out of desktop which is useful for ALOT of issues I have had.
    
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