Originally Posted by PolyMorphist
A lot of you aren't taking into the fact the fundamental factors that would change one's perception of a computer monitor. How far away are they standing (you'd need some quantitative data regarding the average distance someone looks at their monitor from)?. Are the lighting conditions a) Good and b) unanimous? Is the content one is viewing the same, with the same settings on all mediums (monitor, PC)? Are the viewer/tester's eyes 20/20? Unless all of these things can be controlled definitively in controlled environments, it's pretty hard to discuss the topic, especially considering the fidelity of the monitors at hand.
Do you have a science degree because it seems like it? I have been out of school for a while and I completely forgot about having to make a standardized, quantitative experimental design. After 4K, tech companies are not just going to be able to go on pixel density alone because most people will be fine with 4K forever. I know that because I know a lot of people who don't even care that much about 4K right now. It is not a big step up like 480 to 1080p was, or even 720p. I have a friend who works at Best Buy who says that 4K is not worth the money right now. And if people are currently having trouble finding the value in 4K, then when 8K or above comes out, I know that unless they do something drastic to other aspects of the display, they are going to lose a lot of money. I say all of this because psychological research is going to be very important to LG, Samsung, and Sony who usually lead the market with the new tech. It will cost them much less to come together and fund independent research studies that look at all of the quantitative and qualitative variables. If they were to just take a gamble and say, "Ok, 8K it is then!" they would be taking an unnecessary risk.
I have thought about some stuff that they might want to look at without using an experimental design and then some stuff using an experimental design.
First, they can use surveys. They can ask what type of TV people have, how far away they sit, how many lights they have in the room, the type and approximate wattage of the light bulbs in the house, and how high the TV sits and whether it is mounted or on a stand.
Then for an experiment, they can have a 1 group design. They would not need a control. They can show each group (and then each person individually so as to not be influenced by the group) a series of videos in 720p, 1080p, 4K, and 8K. Then they use different upscaled and downscaled video on each display.
This may sound like too much but this sort of research happens all the time in the tech industry, especially with video/audio companies. And doing surveys and research like this many hundreds of times across the country would be the smart thing to do and could end up costing them a lot less money than if they were to take that 4K or 8K gamble. I know that I would not buy anything above 4K since I wear thick glasses and I can barely tell the difference between 720p and 1080p sitting 15 feet from my TV.
And as for gaming, I don't think they should be preoccupied with hurrying up with 4K gaming. I am getting a PS4 for Batman Arkham Knight, Destiny, Uncharted, if they ever release it, and Infamous. Sony said that they will not be doing 4K gaming this generation. I am fine with this. Right now PC games need a semi decent graphics card to run at 1080p at 60 frames. There is no reason for me to get a 4K TV. I won't be able to take advantage of it. There is no native 4K media except for the demo video at the store. They will need to find a way to fit 4K on a Blu Ray disc because I refuse to stream or download movies because of the quality of Blu Rays. Plus, my cable company will need to start using 1080p for their broadcasts. Right now Charter Communications uses compressed 720p. YUCK! Even Vudu uses too much compression in their HDX movies. If you are getting a 4K TV, then Blu Ray is the only way to go I think. And since a Blu Ray can only hold 50 GB of data, then they will need to either use 2 discs, which I am fine with, or find an optical technology that surpasses Blu Ray. And someone please testify to the awesomeness of Blu Rays because I don't want to feel alone here.
When games can be easily run on 4K with a medium class graphics card at 60 FPS, and all of those other conditions are met, then maybe I will look at upgrading to a 4K 3D TV from LG if Best Buy has a huge sale and I can sell my 47" 1080p 3D TV. Until then, LG is not going to make money off of me for their 4K TVs. And I do not think I am being unreasonable here. I think many people do not want to buy 4K until there is a decent sized library of native 4K media and 4K gaming is easily affordable.