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The best part about this update is that it power-related functionality is now also in a sane location that doesn't require hunting in non-obvious and non-discoverable menus. Now why didn't they think of that back in 8.0?
    
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The best part about this update is that it power-related functionality is now also in a sane location that doesn't require hunting in non-obvious and non-discoverable menus. Now why didn't they think of that back in 8.0?
Some folks believe the whole 8.0, 8.1 and now 8.1.1 is a beta testing game and Windows 9 should be the "true" successor to the Windows 7. tongue.gif
[obviously I'm I don't think that way]
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Some folks believe the whole 8.0, 8.1 and now 8.1.1 is a beta testing game and Windows 9 should be the "true" successor to the Windows 7. tongue.gif
[obviously I'm I don't think that way]

Right, so they'll soon rename Win 8.x to Windows 9 Early Access?
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The best part about this update is that it power-related functionality is now also in a sane location that doesn't require hunting in non-obvious and non-discoverable menus. Now why didn't they think of that back in 8.0?

They thought people can use power and sleep buttons on a keyboard or the case, same as how you behave on a notebook. That's why things were strangely hidden. Strange idea for people on a desktop PC with a normal keyboard and stuff. tongue.gif

I heard that new power menu still does not show up if it detects it's running on a tablet or some notebooks.
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Right, so they'll soon rename Win 8.x to Windows 9 Early Access?
Perhaps. tongue.gif
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They thought people can use power and sleep buttons on a keyboard or the case, same as how you behave on a notebook. That's why things were strangely hidden. Strange idea for people on a desktop PC with a normal keyboard and stuff. tongue.gif

I heard that new power menu still does not show up if it detects it's running on a tablet or some notebooks.

It makes sense to hide it on a tablet and possibly a laptop too. It doesn't make sense to hide it on a desktop. At the very least it could have been a top level item in the charms bar. Then it's only non-discoverable rather than both non-discoverable and non-obvious (or to put it succinctly: stupid).
    
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It makes sense to hide it on a tablet and possibly a laptop too. It doesn't make sense to hide it on a desktop. At the very least it could have been a top level item in the charms bar. Then it's only non-discoverable rather than both non-discoverable and non-obvious (or to put it succinctly: stupid).

I don't think Microsoft expected people to be unaware that their PC has a power button.

Of course, everyone with a desktop uses the power button to turn it on, so it's actually really fascinating that so many people believe it's somehow "wrong" to turn off a desktop this way.

Phones, tablets, laptops, cameras...people use the hardware power button all the time. But put them in front of a desktop, and they'll hunt all around the OS for a function that's built into every case on the market. Just goes to show that some things need to be un-learned when they become obsolete.

The new location of the power settings is okay for the most part, except for the fact that my old pet peeve is back - why do you have to click something called "Start" to end your session?
    
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I don't think Microsoft expected people to be unaware that their PC has a power button.

Of course, everyone with a desktop uses the power button to turn it on, so it's actually really fascinating that so many people believe it's somehow "wrong" to turn off a desktop this way.

Phones, tablets, laptops, cameras...people use the hardware power button all the time. But put them in front of a desktop, and they'll hunt all around the OS for a function that's built into every case on the market. Just goes to show that some things need to be un-learned when they become obsolete.

The new location of the power settings is okay for the most part, except for the fact that my old pet peeve is back - why do you have to click something called "Start" to end your session?

Hardware buttons can wear out over time and desktops tend to be kept for years longer than phones. Having said that, habit is still the primary culprit, I agree.
    
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I don't think Microsoft expected people to be unaware that their PC has a power button.

Of course, everyone with a desktop uses the power button to turn it on, so it's actually really fascinating that so many people believe it's somehow "wrong" to turn off a desktop this way.

Phones, tablets, laptops, cameras...people use the hardware power button all the time. But put them in front of a desktop, and they'll hunt all around the OS for a function that's built into every case on the market. Just goes to show that some things need to be un-learned when they become obsolete.

The new location of the power settings is okay for the most part, except for the fact that my old pet peeve is back - why do you have to click something called "Start" to end your session?
Long ago, the power button on towers was, in fact, a power switch. Click, and it turned off. Cut off power. This is why. Many would say "Dont' do it", and the trend stayed.
Of course, these days, the default function is to initiate a safe system shutdown. And it can be told to do reboot, sleep, or do nothing.
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how do i make a win 8.1 pro 64 bit dvd? when i click on the lick i sign into my microsoft account but it says i need to add a subscription to download... umm i own win8.1 upgrade from launch day I got for 14.99

i have that product key... how do i make a install disc of win 8.1 pro now though? i have genuine activated win 8.1 pro on my pc... but i got a new ssd and want to install fresh...
    
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