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Oh sorry..i went to sleep and woke up to reading this post. And i actually ordered rosewill capstone 550w PSU...im using my phone right now and im getting ready for work.

I actually used the extreme psu calculator and it gave me that i required a 520w psu..and i added a 4770k instead of a core i5 and added some extra stuff...so im ok lol

 

When you get a chance though, use eXtreme Outer Vision's PSU calculator again and click its built-in Print button and post a .PNG-formatted screenshot of it. There are some things I want to show you of why the calculation is a little too high.

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post #112 of 174
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When you get a chance though, use eXtreme Outer Vision's PSU calculator again and click its built-in Print button and post a .PNG-formatted screenshot of it. There are some things I want to show you of why the calculation is a little too high.

Capacitor aging is one i like removed, god i hate it everyone think they need to use 30% or more
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post #113 of 174
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So just to keep this thread updated. The components i have bought so far are an LG DVD drive $16, WD Caviar Blue 1TB $55, Corsair 300R $85 (Got a $20 newegg promo gift card and $20 MIR so...$40 bucks off smile.gif ) and ordered the Rosewill Capstone 550w $60.

I rounded of each price since i included tax. So far i have gotten good prices for each component. All I need left is Mobo, CPU and RAM...oh and an OS.

My credit card got maxed since i bought other stuff lol

So hopefully next month ill be good to buy the rest.
post #114 of 174
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Capacitor aging is one i like removed, god i hate it everyone think they need to use 30% or more

And yes, i will do that when i get back from work.

Thanks for the help TwoCables smile.gif
post #115 of 174
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And yes, i will do that when i get back from work.

Thanks for the help TwoCables smile.gif

I am not Two Cables you quoted the wrong person
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post #116 of 174
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I am not Two Cables you quoted the wrong person
Why am I laughing my ass off at this? lachen.gif
post #117 of 174
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Originally Posted by TwoCables View Post

When you get a chance though, use eXtreme Outer Vision's PSU calculator again and click its built-in Print button and post a .PNG-formatted screenshot of it. There are some things I want to show you of why the calculation is a little too high.

post #118 of 174
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I see a few problems already:

 

1.37V for 4.3 GHz is extremely high. You shouldn't need any more than about 1.3V, if that.

 

3 USB devices: are you saying "keyboard, mouse, and _____"? The keyboard and the mouse are automatically included in this calculator.

 

90% System Load is more realistic for Folding on both the CPU and the GPU at the same time. So, unless you're doing that, and if you'll just be using this for gaming, then use 75% instead.

 

Here are the new results (using the Pro version of this calculator to show the +12V recommendation):

 

rudyae86PSU.png

 

Ok, let's look at the +12V recommendation. It says 30.1A. On 12 volts of power, 30.1A is 361.2W. 360W is the typical +12V capacity of a decent 400W PSU. It's also the +12V capacity of the 360W SeaSonic G Series. So like I said before, a good quality-made 450W PSU is more than plenty for this rig. Hell, if you wanted to use a good quality-made 400W PSU, then you certainly could. So, why do they recommend 424W? Because 6.6A on 3.3V of power is 21.78W, 8.2A on 5V of power is 41W, and adding both to 361.2W makes 423.98W, or 424W if you round that  up. So, we can see how stupid this calculator is. How the hell would anyone have a full load on all of the rails all at the same time? That would mean that your fans and drives and other cards are also completely maxed out at 100% load. lol It's ridiculous. No one does that! Plus, it's damn near impossible.

 

Anyway, don't worry about the 550W Capstone being too overkill because it shouldn't be enough overkill to be a problem for your average efficiency.

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Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveOptical Drive
250 GB Samsung 840 EVO (OS) 3 TB Toshiba P300 (storage) Samsung SH-S243N 24x DVD Burner Samsung SH-S203N 20X DVD Burner 
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PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Corsair HX650 (Bronze, ordered on 12-12-2009) CM 690 Intellimouse Optical (1.1A) 1000Hz polling rate Basic, but premium round 
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post #119 of 174
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Originally Posted by TwoCables View Post

I see a few problems already:

1.37V for 4.3 GHz is extremely high. You shouldn't need any more than about 1.3V, if that.

3 USB devices: are you saying "keyboard, mouse, and _____"? The keyboard and the mouse are automatically included in this calculator.

90% System Load is more realistic for Folding on both the CPU and the GPU at the same time. So, unless you're doing that, and if you'll just be using this for gaming, then use 75% instead.

Here are the new results (using the Pro version of this calculator to show the +12V recommendation):

rudyae86PSU.png

Ok, let's look at the +12V recommendation. It says 30.1A. On 12 volts of power, 30.1A is 361.2W. 360W is the typical +12V capacity of a decent 400W PSU. It's also the +12V capacity of the 360W SeaSonic G Series. So like I said before, a good quality-made 450W PSU is more than plenty for this rig. Hell, if you wanted to use a good quality-made 400W PSU, then you certainly could. So, why do they recommend 424W? Because 6.6A on 3.3V of power is 21.78W, 8.2A on 5V of power is 41W, and adding both to 361.2W makes 423.98W, or 424W if you round that  up. So, we can see how stupid this calculator is. How the hell would anyone have a full load on all of the rails all at the same time? That would mean that your fans and drives and other cards are also completely maxed out at 100% load. lol It's ridiculous. No one does that! Plus, it's damn near impossible.

Anyway, don't worry about the 550W Capstone being too overkill because it shouldn't be enough overkill to be a problem for your average efficiency.

wow, didnt know you were actually going to get into alot of detail lol.

i understand most of it.

and the end result is that i got a good psu thats not overkill for my needs. plus for 60 bucks..its a bargain smile.gif
post #120 of 174
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wow, didnt know you were actually going to get into alot of detail lol.

i understand most of it.

and the end result is that i got a good psu thats not overkill for my needs. plus for 60 bucks..its a bargain smile.gif

 

Indeed. :)

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Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveOptical Drive
250 GB Samsung 840 EVO (OS) 3 TB Toshiba P300 (storage) Samsung SH-S243N 24x DVD Burner Samsung SH-S203N 20X DVD Burner 
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Thermaltake Frio Win 7 Home Premium x64 SP1 Retail AOC G2460PG (24" 1920 x 1080 144Hz G-SYNC) Filco Majestouch 104-key Cherry MX Blues w/NKRO 
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Corsair HX650 (Bronze, ordered on 12-12-2009) CM 690 Intellimouse Optical (1.1A) 1000Hz polling rate Basic, but premium round 
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Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveOptical Drive
250 GB Samsung 840 EVO (OS) 3 TB Toshiba P300 (storage) Samsung SH-S243N 24x DVD Burner Samsung SH-S203N 20X DVD Burner 
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
Thermaltake Frio Win 7 Home Premium x64 SP1 Retail AOC G2460PG (24" 1920 x 1080 144Hz G-SYNC) Filco Majestouch 104-key Cherry MX Blues w/NKRO 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Corsair HX650 (Bronze, ordered on 12-12-2009) CM 690 Intellimouse Optical (1.1A) 1000Hz polling rate Basic, but premium round 
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