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That PSU is major overkill for this, and plus it's kind of a rip-off. At roughly $85 and less, here are 3 PSUs that are much better in quality but are still overkill for this proposed build as it is:

$69.99 shipped for the Rosewill 450-M: http://pcpartpicker.com/part/rosewill-power-supply-capstone450m

$84.99 shipped for the Rosewill 550-M: http://pcpartpicker.com/part/rosewill-power-supply-capstone550m

$85.99 shipped from Amazon.com for the 550W SeaSonic G Series; http://pcpartpicker.com/part/seasonic-power-supply-ssr550rm

I know 750W is massive overkill for the parts listed, but from the sound of it he wants to upgrade down the line and be Xfire/SLI capable. 550W is great for a single card but it isn't going to cut it for a multi-GPU setup. As I said this build isn't so much about being he best right now, but being acceptable and leaving all doors open for upgrades.

As for the specific model, after being on this site for a month I have come to the conclusion that there are no good PSUs, only slightly less bad ones.
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I know 750W is massive overkill for the parts listed, but from the sound of it he wants to upgrade down the line and be Xfire/SLI capable. 550W is great for a single card but it isn't going to cut it for a multi-GPU setup. As I said this build isn't so much about being he best right now, but being acceptable and leaving all doors open for upgrades.

As for the specific model, after being on this site for a month I have come to the conclusion that there are no good PSUs, only slightly less bad ones.

 

It depends on the cards. Always. You can't just say that any 2-card system will require X amount of power. Two 265s would never need anything bigger than a 550W PSU:

 

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/amd_radeon_r7_265_review,5.html

 

With one R7 265 under full load in their system, their PSU pulled 253W from the wall outlet. The card itself pulled 144W from the wall outlet. Adding this to 253W for two 265s makes the PSU pulling 397W from the wall. Their CPU was idling while they tested the power consumption, so I will add up to 150W for an overclocked FX-8320 (forgive me if this is way higher than it would be or if this CPU doesn't even overclock that well because I don't know AMD's CPUs). So, adding 150W to 397W makes the PSU pulling 547W from the wall outlet. This means that if the PSU is 90% efficient while pulling 547W from the wall outlet, then the computer is pulling 492W from the PSU. This means that while gaming, the power draw would never exceed about 475W. That would be easy for a good quality-made 550W PSU.

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post #23 of 174
Well since nobody can agree on parts, here's my take.

I know you originally wanted an intel OP, I cant blame you, but honestly, you cant beat this for the price.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3lr1q

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock 990FX Extreme3 ATX AM3+/AM3 Motherboard ($89.25 @ Newegg)
Memory: A-Data XPG V1.0 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($63.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 270X 2GB Video Card ($199.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: NZXT Gamma Classic (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($66.44 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $729.61
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After spending some more time, I revise my suggestion to this:

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3lqWg
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3lqWg/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3lqWg/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($209.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus Z77-A ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($67.75 @ Newegg)
Memory: Kingston Black 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($57.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R7 265 2GB Video Card ($165.00)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 520W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $750.67
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-04-03 16:19 EDT-0400)

Intel will give you more consistent results in gaming, and Ivy because it's a bit cheaper and you don't have to play the Haswell VRM lottery. The CPU will happily play any games at stock clocks, just add a cooler when you get the chance. PSU will be able to handle any single card, or crossfire 265s unless you do some crazy LN2 overclocking.
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Wow. That's a nice deal on the PSU.

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post #26 of 174
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Wow so much to read lol. And soo many builds its hard to choose, especially since i wasnt considering AMD as my main CPU...

Also i was probobly just looming to do 750 without a video card but since you guys added that there, i guess thats even better.

But eeergh, you guys made a bit difficult in what to decide lol.

I also forgot to mention that my budget of 750 must include shipping and tax. I will also and maybe order from different online stores, which are the typical ones you guys have stated, amazon ,newegg, tigerdirect.

Now for the overclocking, i do eventually want to overclock but i wouldnt mind staying stock right now but maybe hitting 4.3ghz stable would be enough forme.

Also the graphics card option you guys have showed are good, like the r7 265 instead of a 750ti. But if i were to sli or xfire, i would actyally do it in a big way, like ditch the r7 for example and just buy a 290 or 290x and then later on just add another or maybe later this year, just go for one of the new 800 nvidia cards.

So i mean, i dont mind cheaping out on the vid card for now as long as it plays games at 1080p and staying above 50fps with medium settings if possible. Im eventually going to go big later this year and bigger afterwards with sli or xfire, depending who i end up with later this year. So the PSU will have to be. A hefty one if lets say, i were to use two 780s or two 290x...just as an example
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Also, for the intel builds, id rather stick with the z87, but then again z77 is cheaper. But im wondering if the z97 will be any slightly better for almost the same price? And i forgot but is broadwell going to becompatible with z97? Or are they going to release a new chipset?
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Wow so much to read lol. And soo many builds its hard to choose, especially since i wasnt considering AMD as my main CPU...

Also i was probobly just looming to do 750 without a video card but since you guys added that there, i guess thats even better.

But eeergh, you guys made a bit difficult in what to decide lol.

I also forgot to mention that my budget of 750 must include shipping and tax. I will also and maybe order from different online stores, which are the typical ones you guys have stated, amazon ,newegg, tigerdirect.

Now for the overclocking, i do eventually want to overclock but i wouldnt mind staying stock right now but maybe hitting 4.3ghz stable would be enough forme.

Also the graphics card option you guys have showed are good, like the r7 265 instead of a 750ti. But if i were to sli or xfire, i would actyally do it in a big way, like ditch the r7 for example and just buy a 290 or 290x and then later on just add another or maybe later this year, just go for one of the new 800 nvidia cards.

So i mean, i dont mind cheaping out on the vid card for now as long as it plays games at 1080p and staying above 50fps with medium settings if possible. Im eventually going to go big later this year and bigger afterwards with sli or xfire, depending who i end up with later this year. So the PSU will have to be. A hefty one if lets say, i were to use two 780s or two 290x...just as an example

 

The 290 is better than the 780, and the 290X is not enough of an upgrade above the 290 to justify its much-higher cost. Go with two 290s when the time comes.

 

If you wanted to have two 290s in Crossfire and if you didn't overvolt them, then you would need a good quality-made 750W PSU. A good quality-made 650W PSU would have enough power, but your power consumption while gaming would peak at 600-625W with two 290s at stock voltages with the CPU at like 4.3 GHz.

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250 GB Samsung 840 EVO (C:\) 250 GB Samsung 840 EVO (D:\) 150 GB WD VelociRaptor Samsung SH-S243N 24x DVD Burner 
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Samsung SH-S203N 20X DVD Burner Thermaltake Frio Win 7 Home Premium x64 SP1 Retail AOC G2460PG (24" 1920 x 1080 144Hz G-SYNC) 
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Filco Majestouch 104-key Cherry MX Blues w/NKRO Corsair HX650 (Bronze, ordered on 12-12-2009) CM 690 Intellimouse Optical (1.1A) 1000Hz polling rate 
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250 GB Samsung 840 EVO (C:\) 250 GB Samsung 840 EVO (D:\) 150 GB WD VelociRaptor Samsung SH-S243N 24x DVD Burner 
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Samsung SH-S203N 20X DVD Burner Thermaltake Frio Win 7 Home Premium x64 SP1 Retail AOC G2460PG (24" 1920 x 1080 144Hz G-SYNC) 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Filco Majestouch 104-key Cherry MX Blues w/NKRO Corsair HX650 (Bronze, ordered on 12-12-2009) CM 690 Intellimouse Optical (1.1A) 1000Hz polling rate 
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The 290 is better than the 780, and the 290X is not enough of an upgrade above the 290 to justify its much-higher cost. Go with two 290s when the time comes.

If you wanted to have two 290s in Crossfire and if you didn't overvolt them, then you would need a good quality-made 750W PSU. A good quality-made 650W PSU would have enough power, but your power consumption while gaming would peak at 600-625W with two 290s at stock voltages with the CPU at like 4.3 GHz.

Definitely was thinking about 2 290s, as like you have said..the performance/price gap between the 290 and 290x, doesnt really make the 290x really worth it in that regards.

Also, im not thinking of overvolting, unless im still stuck with the 290s for years to come and if i really needed that extra power where possible, but honestly, i would just prefer the highest overclock possible with its normal voltage. But this is down the line though.

but thanks for the feed backs guys, really appreciate it.

Im still looking over the builds and seeing what i really want.

But since there are soo many good builds here, i might start choosing one thing of each build, like say, lets start of with the case. A mid tower is good enough for me, i was initially thinking of a full tower but honestly, i dont need that much room and a mid tower is good enough. But i do want to have a case that has great air flow, i think a push pull configuration should do me good. I also want a cheap priced yet a good case, just like i said, with good air flow.

So im really leaning towards the corsair 200r or 300r....
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750 with gpu?

Btw which mobo in microcenter comes with the i5?

Is this just for gaming?

http://www.microcenter.com/site/brands/intel-processor-bundles.aspx

scroll down and look for the bundle with the asrock extreme4 284.98 is the price for both a core i5 and the mobo.

and i wont use it just for gaming but for some mild video editing, listening to music, browsing the web, dont know what else ill be doing along but i can say 65 percent gaming is going to be done with the PC Build
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