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Originally Posted by Tiihokatti View Post

The 660 headset is infamous for having absolutely horrible mic (DOA % is high, very high).
Not to mention that the HMC version (there are 2 kinds) has condenser mic which requires pre-amplification.

It's much smarter to do this (most popular setup in finnish pc-hardware community atm):
HD330
Better pads: Velour (heaven, but changes the sound a little) / 2x AKG pleather (comfy and doesn't change sound)
DT770 mic mod
And random 3.5mm extension cable as the HD330 has coiled cable.

I have Beyerdynamic DT770, MMX2 (paid 45€) and Superlux HD681Evo.
The MMX2 is the worst of the bunch as it's supra-aural instead of circumaural. And the sound quality can't beat Superlux.

Personally I use either the DT770 or Superlux with a customized Zalman Clip-on. The MMX2 is gathering dust in the corner. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

I also have Tritton PC510HDA 5.1 headset, but it's so horrible that I don't even want to mention that I own one.
Awesome post man.. Thanks for the info! The 770 or 330 was going to be my next headphones and seeing the mic mod there is just awesome! +rep
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That mic mod Looks like just the Thing! Thanks for the link, favorite'd!

Unfortunately the DT770's are way out of my Budget otherwise I'd jump on them!
Thanks for the info about the MMX2's, they're not a consideration any more...

I went to the local electro-stuff shop today and tried some headphones out, comparing them to what I have now, and from what I treid I think it's save to say that any headphone around the 70€ mark blows my current cans out of the water!

I haven't tried the HD330's as they didn't stock Superlux, but my chocies from their selection would be:
philips sho5300 -> A bit heavy but still comfortable, great Sound, although a bit bass-heavy it didn't leak into the mids.
Sennheiser HD 429 -> Mad comfortable, clean Sound but lacking a bit of punch in the mids, Overall better balanced than the phils.

I'm no audiophile, so feel free to scoff at my Analysis of These headphones! tongue.gif
Has anyone owned a pair of philips sho5300 or Sennheiser HD 429?

I'd like to hear more about the Superlux HD330's (or Superlux HD681 B's) from an owner, if there's any out there!

Thanks,
Bruce
The upper mids / highs in HD429 is most likely the problem, as you can see in this graph: Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
The HD429 has toned down highs while Beyer and Lux has toned up highs.
Some ppl like enhanced treble while some dislike it. I belong to the former (although I have toned down the 8k range in DT770 by -1dB, too much is always too much).

But generally the best option is to audition the headphones before purchase, everyone has their own tastes.
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i apologize i got confused the superlux headset i linked to wouldn't be much use with the condenser mic XLR connection and phantom power requirements.


I see you are getting good advice however I personally use Beyerdynamic DT770 Pro 80s mainly now... I love mine... I found a used pair at Guitar Center (musical instrument store in the USA... great big corporate one) ...for $70US in excellent shape...

for a mic I use (sort of silly to some extent but i have the stuff) a Sterling Audio ST-55 condenser mic + Focusrite Scarlett 2i2


if you could find a nice pair of used DT770s in budget that would be super... they are very good sounding and then with the inexpensive zalman mic or whatever...
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Originally Posted by Tiihokatti View Post

The upper mids / highs in HD429 is most likely the problem, as you can see in this graph...
...But generally the best option is to audition the headphones before purchase, everyone has their own tastes.
Thanks for the tips, I only tried the HD429's for 10mins or so, but if I were to get the HD429's would I be able to boost the mids sufficently with an EQ and give them some punch, or is this more of a hardware restricted thing?

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Originally Posted by atarione View Post

i apologize i got confused the superlux headset i linked to wouldn't be much use with the condenser mic XLR connection and phantom power requirements.
What do you mean by 'Phantom power requirements'? Is that something I should be aware of?
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Originally Posted by atarione View Post

if you could find a nice pair of used DT770s in budget that would be super... they are very good sounding and then with the inexpensive zalman mic or whatever...
That would be ideal, but new here they cost around the 140€ mark. I had the same idea and visted my local music shop too, but they weren't selling anything second hand/B-ware frown.gif I think you have to be a bit lucky with that kind of thing wink.gif


I'd still like to know a bit more about the Philips sho5300's if anyone has experiance with them?

Thanks,
Bruce

P.S. +Rep for all!
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Phantom power = pre-amplification.
Meaning that the mic won't work without a dedicated microphone amplifier (which are pricy). But this only applies to mics with XLR connection (which basically means that they are condenser mics).
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post #16 of 21
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Originally Posted by Tiihokatti View Post

Phantom power = pre-amplification.
Meaning that the mic won't work without a dedicated microphone amplifier (which are pricy). But this only applies to mics with XLR connection (which basically means that they are condenser mics).

Thanks. You're right, I don't want that, I just want a 'normal' mic. Just out of interest: would a proper sound card like a xonar offer mic pre-amp?

I'm hoping to sell my GTX650Ti this week, if I can get 80€ for it then I'd also be looking at the Sennheiser HD 518's, I haven't treid these yet though, can anyone give me some info about them?

I realise that looking for the best headphones I can afford and then using them mostly for gaming is a bit like buying a Formula 1 car to drive to the shops, but I want to get the best Headphones I can for my money! thumb.gif
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I sold my GFX Card for 80€ today, so that's my Budget. Just going to the shop with an mp3 Player to test the phones one last time.
I think it comes down to either the philips sho5300 or the Sennheiser HD 429. The DT770 doesn't get a mention due to the Price :-(

If anyone has any words of warning about These phones, now's the time!

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Iv had multiple Sennheiser headphones ranging from 40-180$ I love that company and highly recommend their products. I have never tried those HD 429's but they look like the upgraded version of my old Sennheisers. Good company, nice headphones.
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Iv had multiple Sennheiser headphones ranging from 40-180$ I love that company and highly recommend their products. I have never tried those HD 429's but they look like the upgraded version of my old Sennheisers. Good company, nice headphones.

Yeah, I found that pretty much all the Sennheiser 'phones are great at the ~75€ Price Point.
After another test with Music and a source that I know the HD429's are the ones I've set my heart on. Unfortunately the shop didn't have any in stock, so I'll get them through Amazon (they're about 73€ atm).

Thanks for all the help! thumb.gif
 
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