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CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock 970 Extreme3 R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($58.00 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Toshiba Product Series:DT01ACA 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($57.56 @ Mwave)
Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 270 2GB Video Card ($179.99 @ Amazon)
Case: NZXT Source 220 ATX Mid Tower Case ($44.99 @ TigerDirect)
Power Supply: Thermaltake SMART 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ TigerDirect)
Total: $595.51 shipped (+10 MIR not included in total)
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The 760k was released in June 2013, that's not exactly ancient technology. It is a Richland APU minus the GPU part, they will probably do something similar with Kaveri this year.
Oh crap they are Piledriver cores, well I stand corrected. Some Athlon's are now accepted, including the one you picked. PSU you picked isnt great though if I'm honest, not totally sure it will power the system. Yes the system will only use like 180W or something like that, but I don't think I would trust that PSU to do that.
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Changed it to a 450W capstone, up to $510.
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Yea the 750k/760K should definitely be considered acceptable on a decent FM2+ board.

The Biostar A88M Ver. 6.2 is the ~$60 FM2+ microATX board to have for a budget micro FM2+ based build. Someone should use it in a build recommendation. (hint hint)
     
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Besides the shoddy PSU, there are 2 other questionable quality parts in the "$200 cheaper" build. Can you spot them?

Shoddy PSU? There is nothing wrong with EVGA, it is made my HEC and backed by EVGA. Considering the load on it, it is perfectly suitable and built plenty fine. That being said, I could easily drop a more expensive and overbuilt PSU like a Seasonic in there, and still be far lower cost than your build.

Also, what shoddy parts? If you want to take a dig at my system, be a man about it and point things out instead of beating around the bush. Everything in my system is from a major manufacturer that stands behind their products, without question.
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I love the G3220 and expect it would have no problem maintaining good FPS in SP BF4. In MP it would probably cave.

Not really,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6la8xnjBUE

The video was done with a 7770 GPU, and a 4770K tuned down to the specs of the 3220. The bottleneck ended up being the GPU at medium, and even with a 7770 was pulling 40 FPS.
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Shoddy PSU? There is nothing wrong with EVGA, it is made my HEC and backed by EVGA. Considering the load on it, it is perfectly suitable and built plenty fine. That being said, I could easily drop a more expensive and overbuilt PSU like a Seasonic in there, and still be far lower cost than your build.

Also, what shoddy parts? If you want to take a dig at my system, be a man about it and point things out instead of beating around the bush. Everything in my system is from a major manufacturer that stands behind their products, without question.
Not really,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6la8xnjBUE

The video was done with a 7770 GPU, and a 4770K tuned down to the specs of the 3220. The bottleneck ended up being the GPU at medium, and even with a 7770 was pulling 40 FPS.
Yes, and like I said, it would play at 40fps at medium, but if you notice, there are points when it lags quite a bit, points when a slower CPU would lag. I'm not saying it wouldnt do it most of the time, but I would rather have a smooth experience then a slower one. Also a 4770k's cores are of a different quality (if you really look into it).

And yes the EVGA is a shoddy unit made by HEC. HEC is not a very good company, known for making cheap PSU's that barely meet the requirements for the numbers they put on it. It may be backed by EVGA, but I don't like send my PSU in for warrenty. Also he does go on to say why he is taking shots at the build you made, and he makes valid points. On top of that, I did say no crap parts. Sorry man but he just had you there. You can always make another one. I take multiple entries per person.
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Yes, and like I said, it would play at 40fps at medium, but if you notice, there are points when it lags quite a bit, points when a slower CPU would lag. I'm not saying it wouldnt do it most of the time, but I would rather have a smooth experience then a slower one. Also a 4770k's cores are of a different quality (if you really look into it).

And yes the EVGA is a shoddy unit made by HEC. HEC is not a very good company, known for making cheap PSU's that barely meet the requirements for the numbers they put on it. It may be backed by EVGA, but I don't like send my PSU in for warrenty. Also he does go on to say why he is taking shots at the build you made, and he makes valid points. On top of that, I did say no crap parts. Sorry man but he just had you there. You can always make another one. I take multiple entries per person.

Crap parts, what is crap? Literally, everything in there is perfectly fine, but here, a second entry....

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CPU: Intel Core i5-4430 3.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($180.50 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus H81M-PLUS Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($69.99 @ Micro Center)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($37.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R7 265 2GB Video Card ($161.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($37.99 @ Micro Center)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 520W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $593.43
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
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A bit overkill on what your original requirements wherre, but will get the job done.

As far as frame rate drops go, you really aren't going to avoid those in BF4, even rigs with 290s+ still have the random drops and what not. That being said, you will have no problems maintaining 45 as an average with the above build.
    
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Crap parts, what is crap? Literally, everything in there is perfectly fine, but here, a second entry....

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4430 3.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($180.50 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus H81M-PLUS Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($69.99 @ Micro Center)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($37.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R7 265 2GB Video Card ($161.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($37.99 @ Micro Center)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 520W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $593.43
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A bit overkill on what your original requirements wherre, but will get the job done.

As far as frame rate drops go, you really aren't going to avoid those in BF4, even rigs with 290s+ still have the random drops and what not. That being said, you will have no problems maintaining 45 as an average with the above build.
This be my favourite rig so far. I would purchase all those parts. But the best for the money is the Athlon rig so far. Keep trying people! biggrin.gif
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This be my favourite rig so far. I would purchase all those parts. But the best for the money is the Athlon rig so far. Keep trying people! biggrin.gif

Wait, you were worried about the Pentium not performing, but think the Athlon will? They are so unbelievably close in performance, that if you don't feel the G3220 would do it, then the Athlon would be in the same boat.

The exception is if you OC the snot out of it, which won't be happening with the factory cooler. You would need to throw another $30+ on for a decent air cooler to start seeing meaningful OCs on the Athlon, which puts you right back into the i5 territory. Oh, you would also need decent TIM, which would be another ~$12, further increasing the cost of the Athlon build.

All those little things can add up in a hurry.

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The other consideration is that Richland processors, like the 760K, really benefit from high memory clocks. Which, again, would cost more.
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Wait, you were worried about the Pentium not performing, but think the Athlon will? They are so unbelievably close in performance, that if you don't feel the G3220 would do it, then the Athlon would be in the same boat.

The exception is if you OC the snot out of it, which won't be happening with the factory cooler. You would need to throw another $30+ on for a decent air cooler to start seeing meaningful OCs on the Athlon, which puts you right back into the i5 territory. Oh, you would also need decent TIM, which would be another ~$12, further increasing the cost of the Athlon build.

All those little things can add up in a hurry.

EDIT:

The other consideration is that Richland processors, like the 760K, really benefit from high memory clocks. Which, again, would cost more.
BF4 has optimization for multi-core's. The Multi-core optimization updates will roll out for games eventually, but what that basically means is the Athlon's 4 cores will all be used, instead of 1 or 2 being used and the others being only partially used. The Pentium, though it is as fast on games that arent multi-thread optimized, will fall short of BF4 compared.
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