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Why doesn't the ball color slowly change to red as it heats up? There's no heat transfer simulation?

Eehhhh...
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Also, if this is Nvidia only then I'm definitely not interested.

Think logically about that though. Would Nvidia really spend hundreds of thousands and many engineer man-hours of time to create something like this and then hand it over to their biggest and ONLY rival in the desktop graphics space?

Nvidia cards come with certain features and advantages beyond raw performance that can sway buyers. Being that they ARE in the business of making graphics cards that people would want to buy, it would be absolutely crazy for them to develop something like this and then turn it over to their rival.

That's the problem...people don't think logically wink.gif

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Why doesn't the ball color slowly change to red as it heats up? There's no heat transfer simulation?

Eehhhh...

I don't think a flame like that is anywhere near as hot enough as it would have to be to turn a solid metal ball like that red or anything. Think about holding a big solid-metal marble over a campfire. It's just going to get hot is all.
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Seems like both sides do these really cool demos but they never seem to actually use the technology in games. Making a specific demo to show a specific feature at max detail because it does nothing else is easy. Properly optimized this same demo could likely run on pretty much any modern card.

BTW is the demo where it actually renders on your machine available or is this just a movie?
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fire was decent looking around teh collision with the sphere, not really an Autodesk competitor anyways.

but if you watched the whale's splash you should really be underwhelmed.
I mean where was the sea foam, wind, waves?! they did much better water sim last year

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The reason we dont see this in games is not because in 3-4 years we will not have the power. Its because people will say why get such performance hit fro such difference. Juts look at what TressFX did to TR. Some people loved it and some tried to talk down the tech because they could not run it.
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fire was decent looking around teh collision with the sphere, not really an Autodesk competitor anyways.

but if you watched the whale's splash you should really be underwhelmed.
I mean where was the sea foam, wind, waves?! they did much better water sim last year


lmao that smoke stack is just goin for it!!!
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Think logically about that though. Would Nvidia really spend hundreds of thousands and many engineer man-hours of time to create something like this and then hand it over to their biggest and ONLY rival in the desktop graphics space?

Nvidia cards come with certain features and advantages beyond raw performance that can sway buyers. Being that they ARE in the business of making graphics cards that people would want to buy, it would be absolutely crazy for them to develop something like this and then turn it over to their rival.

Meh...I don't see AMD doing the same thing. Either way it doesn't really matter I guess. Deep Down is already doing the same thing using Direct Compute (or some AMD compatible GPU processing) so in the end AMD cards will end up getting the same thing.

Only thing that really ticks me off about Nvidia and their proprietary stuff are the developers that use it. They'd rather let Nvidia do all the heavy lifting PLUS pay them so they can have proprietary stuff in their game that other non-Nvidia users can't use though they pay the same amount for the game and end up missing out on some cool features that COULD have been implemented so ALL could use them via some open source physics engine.

Either way...proprietary stuff like this only divides games. Not to mention that as long as Physx is proprietary we'll NEVER see a game use it for actual GAME PLAY purposes as then it would become an Nvidia only game...which wouldn't happen.

But hey, this is all just my opinion. See it as you will.
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That's the problem...people don't think logically wink.gif

Nice...being mean and offensive for what reason exactly? thumbsdownsmileyanim.gif
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That's the problem...people don't think logically wink.gif

Nice...being mean and offensive for what reason exactly? thumbsdownsmileyanim.gif

Trust me, I'm guilty of it just as often as anyone else, probably even more-so sadsmiley.gif. I wasn't really directing that towards anyone, more towards the argument in general. The argument that Nvidia should constantly hand out everything they design. I know all the reasons people dislike the proprietary features they offer, might even agree with some of them, but actually believing that a business should hand out something they put a lot of R&D into doesn't make much sense most of the time. If these things didn't help their business or boost sales in some form, then there would be little incentive to keep doing it.
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fire was decent looking around teh collision with the sphere, not really an Autodesk competitor anyways.

but if you watched the whale's splash you should really be underwhelmed.
I mean where was the sea foam, wind, waves?! they did much better water sim last year


I agree, this is by far Nvidea best demo, they really set their own standards high, hence this fire feels kind of disappointing.

Maybe it would of looked better if they put it in an environment, not just a shiny black floor with a grey ball.
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