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MB: ECS A990FXM
CPU: FX-6350
PSU: SeaSonic M12II 650

New rig is shiny, beautiful, nothing wrong whatsoever...

So much more fun researching and building, that playing games is boring now; time to BREAK THE SHINIES!

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starting values:
CPU volt: 1.332v (3900 mhz)
Dimm volt: 1.584v
NB volt: 1.104v

Disabled core boost in BIOS



Strange volt increase meter on the vcore, options giving increments of: +150, +200, +250, +300... and so on, not what i was expecting. so i pick the lowest value (+150) and choose a safe number in the core multiplier (x11.5)



Not remembering exacts here, but comes in low: CPU: ~1.1v (~2300 mhz)
I feel i have some room to play and figure things out, and after alot of readings from the fine folks on these forums have a steady hand make numbers happen and apply settings...mhm

So I hit some random settings to try and find my "home" clock, til i get to like 3800, feels safe, and I have done around 5-6 different applied settings at this point. noticing that the volt increases seem to lower as I'm increasing the multiplier, when i'm not even touching the voltage. so feeling confident that the multiplier actually lowers the voltage (since this MB doesnt allow any direct voltage numbers to be input as I was expecting to find) I set to: x21.5 and hit another +200 i think... I really dont remember because whats about to happen sends me into a panick



this is where i enter BIOS and find Vcore @ like 1.650, and the clock is around 4600 and my temps are soaring, TOO fast!!! I see temp @ 71C as I hurriedly enter into MIBX, and set lower on the volts, what i thought was lower anyways (+150) and lower multiplier (x19%)
~~~~ No idea how hot it got in the time it took me to apply the new settings, scared now cuz AMD doesnt like these temps~~~~



so BIOS is nicer to me now, I enter to find CPU: 1.468v (4400 MHZ)
I let it sit for a bit, after 10 mins (temp holding 52C) of just being what it is now. I feel lucky and relieved... I'm not sure why, but I now feel compelled to save again and reset, i havent changed anything, just for ease of mind...



Whats that over there!?!

I am distracted and miss the POST to enter BIos, windows starts to load.... and it sits on the loading screen, frozen, no animation, just a frozen winows logo in mid-transformation...

assuming I just need to give it time to "do it's thing", I wait a minute...something is wrong, and now I find I can't shutown by holding the power button. I manually disconnect power



after waiting a minute, I tuen on the power to find all the fans running, lights on everything sounds right...xcept for the NOTHING happening. No load into Bios, no POST beep, and with a lil inspection. I see there are NO CPU indicator lights (this MB has a row of LEDs of varying color to indicate Proc activity level. and they have never been grey... I haz killed something.

Any thoughts to my horror story will be appreciated, gotta go to work, back in 9 hours...

(SOLVED) nothing more than a hardware oversight... Found the 8 pin CPU power supplement was not seated correctly, which is surprising. it shows some melting around one of the pins in the female socket, so I assume I should not use it altogether; which is fine i have some modular 8 pin action. which has now given me the reason to flip my PSU upside down, which will give me the exhaust I really wanted, from the bottom of the case anyways.

Ty cpmee for being so helpful, the AMD link was very insightful to my understanding (+1) and I got a new CMOS battery out of the deal!

Lessons learned: patience, and, if the car isn't running, check if there is any fuel first.
Edited by Swell5 - 4/4/14 at 11:25am
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Follow the overclock guides here
http://www.overclock.net/t/1348623/amd-bulldozer-and-piledriver-overclocking-guide-asus-motherboard/0_20

and here:
http://sites.amd.com/us/Documents/AMD_FX_Performance_Tuning_Guide.pdf

Looking over your bios from the manual
http://download.ecs.com.tw/dlfileecs/manual/mb/A990FXM-A/A990FXM-A%20V1.1.pdf

you do have some weird bios settings, heh. *** is Slam Time Mode and VSSlam Time ?? The manual is pretty poorly written and doesnt explain hardly anything. The older ECS manuals were better, heh.
Edited by cpmee - 4/3/14 at 5:27pm
    
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ty for the reply cpmee,

I have looked over those linked items before, and will be diving into them again for my next overclock; thx!

As I'm not sure, what went wrong, I know what didn't go right , and this further fuels my desire to learn... the intent when I rebooted was to disable some of items, such as "cool and quiet"," Spread spectrum" and "C1E". However missing the Post to Bios, I loaded into windows, killed something... all the stuff I said^^^

MY REAL QUESTION:
Did I Kill the CPU or the MB...both?
cuz my guess would be the cpu... though i'm not certain what the above symptoms would point to as the kill shot.

I am planning to buy a new CPU for the troubleshoot, and would rather not if possible.


*walks away grumbling something about greek yogurt*
Edited by Swell5 - 4/3/14 at 8:51pm
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MY REAL QUESTION:
Did I Kill the CPU or the MB...both?
Probably not, although windows may have corrupted. Did you clear the cmos ? Also, take out the battery and measure it with a good VOM. It should read more than 3 volts. If less than 2.95 volts, I would replace. Its not uncommon for boards to come with weak batteries, especially from ECS. A weak battery can cause all sort of illogical weird symptoms.

I havent had any recent ECS boards lately, but in the past most of my ECS boards were pretty durable, but could be finicky and of course they had limited options. tongue.gif
    
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Probably not, although windows may have corrupted. Did you clear the cmos ? tongue.gif
I tried 3 times to clear cmos, each of varying time and method, so I'm certain that was done... no help sadly
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Also, take out the battery and measure it with a good VOM. It should read more than 3 volts. If less than 2.95 volts, I would replace. Its not uncommon for boards to come with weak batteries, especially from ECS. A weak battery can cause all sort of illogical weird symptoms. tongue.gif
I'll give it a try soon, replacing a battery is fun for everyone XD
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I havent had any recent ECS boards lately, but in the past most of my ECS boards were pretty durable, but could be finicky and of course they had limited options. tongue.gif
Indeed, the options are almost alien in some wayz. but the board itself i actually like for durability and positioning of the NB, which lines up just under the Mosfet, which m,akes for easy cooling options
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Ty cpmee, I'm really enjoying the links atm biggrin.gif
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(SOLVED) nothing more than a hardware oversight... Found the 8 pin CPU power supplement was not seated correctly, which is surprising. it shows some melting around one of the pins in the female socket, so I assume I should not use it altogether; which is fine i have some modular 8 pin action. which has now given me the reason to flip my PSU upside down, which will give me the exhaust I really wanted, from the bottom of the case anyways.

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and I got a new CMOS battery out of the deal!
I try to replace my batteries in boards at least every 2 years. When they go weak, all sorts of weird and illogical problems can pop up.
    
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