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read your edit just now, i agree 100%, fanboying for either side is kinda dumb, fanboy for performance and get what performs best, especially if it costs less, which in this case is the r9 290. sure it doesnt overclock as high as nvidia cards on air, but clock for clock its stronger, so you dont really need it to be hitting 1300mhz core 24/7 to play all of todays games flawlessly.

This is true, and actually when I saw the reviews for the R9 290x, I was jumping around celebrating because AMD had again hit a performance level that was as good as or better than Nvidia. Of course, then the clock throttling and loud cooler issues came to light and it became less appealing.

Both companies have had their rounds of not-so-great cards and correspondingly bad coolers to go along with them. I have to believe that similar to the 8800 GTX and it's reign of terror it had over ATI cards, the GTX 780, Ti, and TITANs are easily the most well engineered Nvidia cards of all time. However, it's not because of raw performance that I think it's so well engineered. It's the fact that GK110 cards came out with a sleek, efficient, and quiet stock cooler. We have never seen such an amazing stock cooler on a video card ever. That's what impressed me the most.

Again, I'm not saying the R9 290x is a bad card, but everyone here will agree that the stock cooler on that thing sucks. Not only that, but most 3rd party coolers are a little loud too, and that never happens.

I like the R9 290(x) for what it is: a very fast card with a great price tag. However, in terms of overall engineering, I think the GTX 780 and 780 Ti has them beat, and that's why I got my 780.
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exactly, i guarantee you if someone posted " i only play games that have physx and i always turn physx on, what card should i get" there would be someone posting " get a 290x its stronger than a 780ti blah blah blah derp derpy derppppppppp reverse that for mantle and you would probably have someone going " get a 780ti theyre stronger when overclocking derpy derrrrr durrrr hurrrrrrrrrrr"


moral of the story - people post suggestions without knowing the full story.



it should be a requirement to post what you use the card for

what games you want to play with it if gaming is the cards main use

what resolution

aircooling, watercooling, sub zero which will you use

crossfire/sli in the future?

etc

 

Or, it should be a rule on here that when giving help, we should find out the whole story so that we don't make a bad recommendation. lol

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This is true, and actually when I saw the reviews for the R9 290x, I was jumping around celebrating because AMD had again hit a performance level that was as good as or better than Nvidia. Of course, then the clock throttling and loud cooler issues came to light and it became less appealing.

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Again, I'm not saying the R9 290x is a bad card, but everyone here will agree that the stock cooler on that thing sucks. Not only that, but most 3rd party coolers are a little loud too, and that never happens.

I like the R9 290(x) for what it is: a very fast card with a great price tag. However, in terms of overall engineering, I think the GTX 780 and 780 Ti has them beat, and that's why I got my 780.

 

There are several extremely good 290 and 290Xs that are plenty quiet, like the Sapphire Tri-X.

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There are several extremely good 290 and 290Xs that are plenty quiet, like the Sapphire Tri-X.

That's why I said most. The Tri-X is actually one of the good ones.
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That's why I said most. The Tri-X is actually one of the good ones.

 

I was just saying that because I didn't see any mention of the non-reference 290s, and those are the only ones worth getting. I feel that any reference 290 or 290X is a rip-off.

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If you're in the U.S. the 780.
if you're European, R9 290x.

Over here in The Netherlands the R9 290x is like 400,- and the R9 290 is 300 - 350.
The 780 is 500+ for us so over here the choice is a little different. Don't look at reviews when they break down a product cause of the price.

Here in the UK we have stuff like tri-x for £300.

The cheapest 290x on OCUK is £400, that's a 1.33x price jump

yet we've shown on OCN multiple times that there is only about a 2.5 - 4% performance change - we have shown that the majority of the difference between ref 290 and 290x is simply down to the 290 being artificially clocked lower, which is irrelevant for factory OC or OC - Why would anybody on OCN, with value in mind, suggest paying 33% more for a ~3% performance gain?

290, 290x and 780 are very close to eachother, 780ti is a bit of a step up if you're pushing all of the cards - but for value, 290 and 780 clearly stand out, with the 290 vs 290x price gap being particularly confusing for an enthusiast
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Yeah Ref 290/290x's are a joke in terms of cooling. Overclocking is pointless on them, as the cooler has trouble with stock settings.


Also People that think the gtx780 is a potential better overclocker because you can mod your bios to send more power to the card. Well guess what, you can do the same for a 290.
Underwater with a modded bios really it will be the luck of the draw to determine the card with the most to gain. IMO a Golden 290 will beat a Golden 780 under water.

That's why I got myself a 290, just have yet to try it yet. Need to get a waterblock for it, but will test on air first.
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Yeah Ref 290/290x's are a joke in terms of cooling. Overclocking is pointless on them, as the cooler has trouble with stock settings.


Also People that think the gtx780 is a potential better overclocker because you can mod your bios to send more power to the card. Well guess what, you can do the same for a 290.
Underwater with a modded bios really it will be the luck of the draw to determine the card with the most to gain. IMO a Golden 290 will beat a Golden 780 under water.

That's why I got myself a 290, just have yet to try it yet. Need to get a waterblock for it, but will test on air first.
I also have an R9 290. Stock cooling though but that was because I'm planning on a custom loop and I have my own fan profile in Afterburner. The stock cooler sucks I know, but it does do the job. The only thing that's kinda sucky is the built in fan control since it doesn't speed up as much as it needs to when it gets hot.
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Yeah Ref 290/290x's are a joke in terms of cooling. Overclocking is pointless on them, as the cooler has trouble with stock settings.


Also People that think the gtx780 is a potential better overclocker because you can mod your bios to send more power to the card. Well guess what, you can do the same for a 290.
Underwater with a modded bios really it will be the luck of the draw to determine the card with the most to gain. IMO a Golden 290 will beat a Golden 780 under water.

That's why I got myself a 290, just have yet to try it yet. Need to get a waterblock for it, but will test on air first.

Depends on the test and resolution, because it's so close
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post #110 of 215
780 vs 290 at this point really all comes down to

What games do you play

Do you need nvidia/amd specific features like physx or mantle

What cooling solutions

Because really the performance is so close it won't make a difference unless you are using games that benefit from one or the others software specifically.
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Caselabs Mercury S3 Razer naga :( sennheiser HD 558 
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I7 6700K ASUS Maximus VIII Impact EVGA GTX TITAN X G.skill 16gb 3200 ddr4 
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Samsung 840 pro 250gb Samsung 840 evo 250gb Samsung 840 evo 250gb Ice kings magic. 
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WIN 10 Wasabi Mango 42" 4k Corsair k70 EVGA 1000w P2 
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Caselabs Mercury S3 Razer naga :( sennheiser HD 558 
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