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Originally Posted by LaBestiaHumana View Post

GK110 reference cards are able to handle 1.325v 24/7- 1.5v for benching. With EK or XSPC blocks. That is a huge advantage over air.

I can only do single card runs at 1.425v with vanilla titan. SLI requires more juice from my power supply.

GK110 does greatly benefit from water.

Just ask OccamRazor from Team SkyN3t thumb.gif

I mean that Hawaii should benefit no less, in relative terms.
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I mean that Hawaii should benefit no less, in relative terms.

I don't know about non reference cards like the matrix or lightning, but vanilla 290x seem to hit a wall around 1200-1250mhz.
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my 290, too . . .

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/7748882

with the original bios.thumb.gif

prolly be beat by a 780 at 1450 or more. prolly more.

Very nice card. thumb.gif

I was more speaking on the average though.
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I don't think GK110 has a real advantage over Hawaii under water relative to their respective on-air performance, especially since the latter is more thermally constrained to begin with...

I wouldn't say that at all. GK110 on air in honestly not that impressive. On water with more volts they scream. Reference 290s, IMO, have a very lackluster power delivery.
 
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Very nice card. thumb.gif

I was more speaking on the average though.
I wouldn't say that at all. GK110 on air in honestly not that impressive. On water with more volts they scream. Reference 290s, IMO, have a very lackluster power delivery.

Yes. AMD doesn't have the same level of quality in their cooler or their reference PCB.

The vast majority of Hawaii purchasers have been using them for mining with little regard for their performance capabilities outside of tweaking for hash rates. There are cards like the ones above.

I'd be interested in a statistically significant sample to determine the practical overclocking headroom of aftermarket 290s under water. It would be unfair to compare a water-cooled 780 Classified to a water-cooled reference 290.
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In the same boat as the OP since Maxwell is delayed until 2015, but it's between the 290/290x/780. Leaning towards the 780 just because airflow in my 800d is minimal and i wont be dropping 600$ anytime soon to finish the loop as i intended. My Glacer 240L is holding up fine for my 3770k. My backup rig needs my 7970 back honestly as well, the 470 is seriously starting to show it's age. There is always the ridiculous OCing ability of a 780 Classy as well, even on air. Wish they were freaking 450$ though.

What is the retail price for a 290x lightening?
Edited by Blackops_2 - 4/5/14 at 12:00am
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In the same boat as the OP since Maxwell is delayed until 2015, but it's between the 290/290x/780. Leaning towards the 780 just because airflow in my 800d is minimal and i wont be dropping 600$ anytime soon to finish the loop as i intended. My Glacer 240L is holding up fine for my 3770k. My backup rig needs my 7970 back honestly as well, the 470 is seriously starting to show it's age. There is always the ridiculous OCing ability of a 780 Classy as well, even on air. Wish they were freaking 450$ though.

What is the retail price for a 290x lightening?

The 290X lightning is 699usd on newegg.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?gclid=CLyWy5ToyL0CFc9AMgodphgAkA&Item=N82E16814127787&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleAdwords&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-_-pla-_-Desktop+Graphics+Cards-_-N82E16814127787&ef_id=Uz@vbQAAAY3vFj5d:20140405072325:s


Edit: like I said earlier, I would go with an EVGA 780 thumb.gif
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Was hoping that was the inflated price due to the miners..700 is too steep.
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Holy crap. 43 posts since my last post. Yeah, I'm not going to catch up. I apologize to anyone who may have said anything directly to me. If you did and if you still want a reply, then please link me to your post.

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Holy crap. 43 posts since my last post. Yeah, I'm not going to catch up. I apologize to anyone who may have said anything directly to me. If you did and if you still want a reply, then please link me to your post.

you didnt miss much, it was basically 30 posts of us trying to establish that the r9 cards run slightly hotter than the 780s on air then basically back to " no get amd i like amd! no get nvidia, i like nvidia!"
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you didnt miss much, it was basically 30 posts of us trying to establish that the r9 cards run slightly hotter than the 780s on air then basically back to " no get amd i like amd! no get nvidia, i like nvidia!"

 

lol OCN is a special place.

 

To continue the debate, I'm just going to say this: all I care about is getting the best performance. That's why I went with the R9 290 instead of the GTX 780. Oh yeah, and I got the R9 290 DirectCU II for $489.99 shipped. That's $10 less than the GTX 780 DirectCU II, and I'm going to get superior performance.


Edited by TwoCables - 4/5/14 at 9:57am
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