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The cloud is the future of all computing tasks. It is only a matter of time before this technology becomes advanced enough and I personally cannot wait.

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I'm completely serious. We have already seen the shift in the corporate market so it's only a matter of time before it happens to the consumer market as well. Obviously not everything will be in the cloud but I expect the vast majority of services will be in the near future.

your trolling? as a pc gamer and moderator of an extremely large PC OVERCLOCKING FORUM you can't want the destruction of Client end hardware?

Not to mention any data security at all. You do realise that Live terminal session to your online computer can be easily mirrored onto another administrators monitors so they can watch exactly what you are doing on your home.. sorry cloud PC?

terrible attitude for a Mod
Edited by Pip Boy - 4/4/14 at 11:45am
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Cloud computing is really cool for certain uses: processing insane amounts of data, rendering complicated things (i.e. CGI-movies), etc. The thing is, these types of uses don't need to operate at very low latency. For example, if you're processing data, you can probably live with 100, 200 or even 500ms delay. If you're Pixar and rendering a movie, then you really don't care what your latency is.

However, in a game, the physics is going to need to be done quickly - VERY quickly. The problem is, almost no one has the bandwidth or network stability to do this. Maybe one day when "basic cable" is equal to Google Fiber; but right now, when getting a 50/50mbps connection is considered "fast", it's just not going to happen.

True. But, this is where the entire industry is headed. More synergistic unified adoption of "cloud of everything" will pull ahead the demand for bandwidth upgrades across ilecs and clecs.
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True. But, this is where the entire industry is headed. More synergistic unified adoption of "cloud of everything" will pull ahead the demand for bandwidth upgrades across ilecs and clecs.

Not everything can be cloud based.

But I will wait to see cause there are alot of things I thought could not be done then it got done...
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your trolling? as a pc gamer and moderator of an extremely large PC OVERCLOCKING FORUM you can't want the destruction of Client end hardware.

Not to mention any data security at all. You do realise that Live terminal session to your online computer can be easily mirrored onto another administrators monitors so they can watch exactly what you are doing on your home.. sorry cloud PC?

Not trolling at all. If you read my post I said "Obviously not everything will be in the cloud but I expect the vast majority of services will be in the near future." Some things will always be client side and I expect hardcore users will always have their own hardware (overclockers, extreme gamers, etc.) I never said I wanted the "destruction of Client end hardware" but I see that as the future for the majority of people since it will be more cost effective and accessible. Now for security - there is encryption for a reason. Already you can setup encrypted connections from the cloud to your home computer.
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True. But, this is where the entire industry is headed. More synergistic unified adoption of "cloud of everything" will pull ahead the demand for bandwidth upgrades across ilecs and clecs.

I don't know that higher demand (created by "cloud of everything") will actually create a higher supply. A higher dependence on streaming and cloud computing could easily cause every IPS to increase their pricing and lower/implement data caps. Honestly, it's a crappy PR move, but probably a great business move. Shoot, they could probably use the same type of meaningless jargon companies use to sell low end hardware to make consumers think their IPS is doing them a favor or making big improvements.

It would certainly be cool if the opposite happened though.

Edit: Sorry, I know you were referring to wireless data bandwidth upgrades, but in theory I don't know why that wouldn't expand to home internet services as well.
Edited by MR_Plow - 4/4/14 at 12:00pm
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Not trolling at all. If you read my post I said "Obviously not everything will be in the cloud but I expect the vast majority of services will be in the near future." Some things will always be client side and I expect hardcore users will always have their own hardware (overclockers, extreme gamers, etc.) I never said I wanted the "destruction of Client end hardware" but I see that as the future for the majority of people since it will be more cost effective and accessible. Now for security - there is encryption for a reason. Already you can setup encrypted connections from the cloud to your home computer.

but its a tip toe game bud, you know it. Before long its all chromeOS / Apple Cloud / Microsoft yawn etc..

then there is no need for any local hardware, no matter how much gamers want it they will be in the small percentage and encryption wont do jack anywhere.. which if i may don my tinfoil hat .. would benefit governments greatly! so there is funding and motive.

So yea, I hate cloud smile.gif
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but its a tip toe game bud, you know it. Before long its all chromeOS / Apple Cloud / Microsoft yawn etc..

then there is no need for any local hardware, no matter how much gamers want it they will be in the small percentage and encryption wont do jack anywhere.. which if i may don my tinfoil hat .. would benefit governments greatly! so there is funding and motive.

So yea, I hate cloud smile.gif

While I do think you have a valid point, us true enthusiasts are pretty vocal so I don't see the total disappearance of hardcore local hardware anytime soon - it's how companies push the envelope of what is technologically possible too so it's a necessity for any company. Why won't encryption do anything? I don't understand that.
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While I do think you have a valid point, us true enthusiasts are pretty vocal so I don't see the total disappearance of hardcore local hardware anytime soon - it's how companies push the envelope of what is technologically possible too so it's a necessity for any company. Why won't encryption do anything? I don't understand that.

well if you think about cloud as it stands in its full evolution (not this add on phony physics) it is basically nigh on terminal server type stuff with virtualiazed desktops. Ok initially there will be some weak hardware that can do web stuff (chrome os) but the more you think about the way it could operate ((and don’t think they haven’t already thought of this and written the EULA to claim ownership of everything)) is more like on-live and if the desktop becomes integrated in that way rather than the local hardware running web, music, editing, gaming etc.. then you have the full potential to viewport into a desktop session silently, or a game, or a video chat. So on an abstracted higher level your whole computing experience could be promiscuously being 'watched'

of course, not at the moment but the first step is to remove powerful hardware at the edge and offer Chrome OS style cloud desktops, then as demands for serious programs happen they won't retain the edge hardware they will have Adobe-cloud, 3DstudioMax-cloud and the render will be remote as will the virtual desktop and editing suite as those programs (and games) will be too powerful for the local hardware.

So I do think terminal server style desktops will jump ontop of standard cloud services in the next 10-15 years if there is no resistance. Only linux desktops will be the safe way to compute then..
Edited by Pip Boy - 4/4/14 at 12:18pm
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Looks like everybody that said this was a gimmick need to put a sock in their mouth.
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Looks like everybody that said this was a gimmick need to put a sock in their mouth.

in the real world it will still be a gimmick
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