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Through a different thread related to the GTX770, it was pointed out to me that my CPU (Intel Core2 Q6700) may bottleneck the new card. I was told that it's possible the CPU could be overclocked to reduce the bottleneck.

Does anyone have experience related to this? Basically, what I'd like to know is if overclocking the CPU would reduce the bottleneck significantly. If it is worth pursuing, what type of air cooling should I look into so that I can safely overclock?

If it's relevant, my motherboard is an EVGA nForce 780i SLI.

I'm pretty ignorant when it comes to this type of stuff, so any help would be greatly appreciated!
Edited by Neurodriven - 4/3/14 at 6:16pm
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Yes, the CPU will most likely be a pretty significant bottle neck your GPU on most games. You are also running DDR2 ram which could also be a bottleneck concern. A 770 would kind of be overkill for a system like that, I don't think dumping $350 or so into the graphics that system would be a wise investment. The cpu socket doesn't give you an options for a processor upgrade or ram upgrades so you are kind of stuck.

It's not like your system is garbage or anything, you could still play games at decent settings and frame rates, I'd just spend less on the GPU since you wouldn't really be getting the benefit of such a high end graphics card. What GPU is currently in the system? There might not be any upgrade options and you'd be better off saving to build a new rig.

As for overclocking that chip you could probably see a really nice performance increase if you overclock 3.4 GHz or so. You'd most likely need to be running water or a really good air cooler to get anywhere near close though.\

Your system is just showing it's age, it's getting to be time for a whole new rig and not just a component upgrade.
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Seen as you already have the GPU i would try and get the best possible clocks from it. See if its helps but i would look at a new mobo and cpu myself.
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I've tried putting my 770 on my other pc with a Q8200 and it ran some games fine like League of Legends. But bottlenecks on games like BF3/BF4. It's like the card is performing as a GTX 460. lol.
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Thanks for the feedback, guys!
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It's not like your system is garbage or anything, you could still play games at decent settings and frame rates, I'd just spend less on the GPU since you wouldn't really be getting the benefit of such a high end graphics card. What GPU is currently in the system? There might not be any upgrade options and you'd be better off saving to build a new rig.

Right now, there is a GTX460 as the primary card, and a 9800 GTX for PhysX.
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As for overclocking that chip you could probably see a really nice performance increase if you overclock 3.4 GHz or so. You'd most likely need to be running water or a really good air cooler to get anywhere near close though.

There is currently a Xigmatek S80 DP liquid cooler over the cpu, so I think I'm ok with that. I actually tried to overclock it last night, and something (maybe the motherboard) won't let me change the clock frequency. So I tried doing FSB overclocking and bumping to like 3.3 ghz caused Windows to not load. I didn't sit there and try a bunch of setting because frankly, if it didn't do over 3.2 ghz then I didn't think it'd matter in terms of upgrading the gpu. I used the nForce 780i SLI motherboard's reference pdf to adjust settings, so I don't think I did something incorrect. Not sure though.
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Your system is just showing it's age, it's getting to be time for a whole new rig and not just a component upgrade.

It really does pretty well still, but I am one of those anal people who hates running anything below max or close to max settings. I think I will probably wait and upgrade everything sometime in the next year. I don't mind doing a single component swap now, but I'm not ready to blow the money to get a new motherboard, cpu, gpu, and ram at the moment, hah.

Thanks again!
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If you really don't wanna upgrade your mobo/CPU/RAM, you might as well ebay a pair of GTX 580 3GB...
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Think of it like buying a Ferrari super car without its engine and then installing on it the engine of 1250CC Fiat Punto. Then you make a thread at a Car Enthusiast forum and ask if your modded Ferrari will perform just as well as other non-modded Ferraris.

1. The Q6700 is hopelessly outdated and no matter how much you overclock it, it will still SUBSTANTIALLY bottleneck your 770.

2. Often, people not savvy about computers, don't seem to get that if your CPU is hopelessly outdated, buying the best GPU in the market won't help. You could buy a GTX Titan, and still there would be no difference, as your CPU is too weak to drive the GPU.

There is a number of things you could do at this stage:

a. Buy a Q9650 and overclock it to 4.2 GHz. Even that CPU@4.2 GHz will still bottleneck a GTX 770. It just won't be as bad as the Q6700.

b. Do the S775-S771 mod and get a cheaper Xeon X5460 and overclock it to 4.4 GHz. Even that CPU@4.4 GHz will still bottleneck a GTX 770. It just won't be as bad as the Q6700.

c. Buy a new mobo, CPU and RAM. ($400 to $800).
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If you really don't wanna upgrade your mobo/CPU/RAM, you might as well ebay a pair of GTX 580 3GB...
Why? i dont see how that would help?
Surely there would be just as much of a bottleneck?
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