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post #21 of 35
Forgive me for not picking and choosing quotes, I'm tablet bound.

Using the nifty was indeed an intentional challenge, and a ton of fun. It was while challenging myself that I realized it really was all I really needed, at least for most things, and outdoors.

Which brings me to the OPs post...for indoors on a crop, you're right, 50mm is too long, and the nifty can be a dog focussing in poor lighting, so it probably isn't the best choice inside.

As far as the 35mm USM vs the Sigma, the former has IS, which comes in handy. The latter is twon stops wider, which also comes in handy. I'd probably lean toward the sigma. That said, I have not read reviews, compared the two nor used either of them, so don't take my word for it.
post #22 of 35
Oops, tried to edit my post and ended up double posting. I just wanted to say when I heard 'walk around', I automatically thought outdoors. Also, my greater point is that, whike it might not be everyone's cup of tea, using 50mm on a crop for a general walk around lens certainly isn't what I'd call 'stupid'.
Edited by hokiealumnus - 4/10/14 at 7:25am
post #23 of 35
Simple answer, the Sigma 35 f/1.4 Art is better than the Canon, but it's also more expensive. It's really up to you, is the full stop of light worth the $300 retail?
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You just have to get used to moving yourself rather than a zoom ring.

Sorry, but you need learn about perspective relative to focal length. "Foot zooming" is not a thing -- lenses should be chosen on criteria that is conducive to your style, not what's affordable.
post #25 of 35
I'm aware perspective changes with focal length, but thanks for pointing that out for us.

And I never mentioned anything about affordability; not sure what you're talking about there.
post #26 of 35
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Originally Posted by ghostrider85 View Post

Yup, i don't think the 50mm will serve me well specially indoors when i don't have enough room, plus i will also shoot videos and the nifty fifty is noisy.

How about the canon 35mm f2 is usm vs sigma 35mm f1.4 art?

I have never handled the 35/2 but i have used the 35L and the 35 sigma a few times. comparing the L with the sigma, i would choose the sigma because both lenses are similar in IQ but the sigma has longer warranty, is cheaper and i would have enough other L for me to qualify for CPS gold.

i know you asked about primes, but if you see yourself using apsc for the next few years it might make sense to get the 18-35/1.8. you sacrifice about 2/3 of a stop but gain the flexibility of a zoom.
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Oops, tried to edit my post and ended up double posting. I just wanted to say when I heard 'walk around', I automatically thout outdoors. Also, my greater point is that, whike it might not be everyone's cup of tea, using 50mm on a crop for a general walk around lens certainly isn't what I'd call 'stupid'.

with a 50 you are forcing yourself to frame with a telephoto lens as your normal walk around. which is fine, if you are bored with photography and you want to challenge yourself.

i dont know if its stupid for you to use a 50 as a walk around, but i know it would be stupid for me to use a 85 on fullframe as a daily walk around since i couldnt frame any shots i would have in mind.
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Sorry, but you need learn about perspective relative to focal length. "Foot zooming" is not a thing -- lenses should be chosen on criteria that is conducive to your style, not what's affordable.

affordability plays a huge role in choosing camera equipment. i would love to pick up a new digital hasselblad to shoot landscape with but since i cant afford it. it is nothing but a desire and it should not dictate what gear i should purchase next.
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I'm aware perspective changes with focal length, but thanks for pointing that out for us.

And I never mentioned anything about affordability; not sure what you're talking about there.
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I'm aware perspective changes with focal length, but thanks for pointing that out for us.

And I never mentioned anything about affordability; not sure what you're talking about there.

its ok to admit you made a really inaccurate post rolleyes.gif

you cant make a 'zoom with your feet' post and then say im aware perspective changes with focal length to pretend you never made that post earlier lol thumb.gif
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post #28 of 35
All I said was I can use the 50mm as a walkaround and that I have to physically move to get the composition I want. Nothing is inaccurate about that at all. It's true. I do it, and enjoy it. Please, point out to me how that is inaccurate.

The perspective is different at different focal lengths, I would think that's painfully obvious, but apparently it needs to be pointed out. Perspective changes with focal length. Is that better, or do you and sub50 just feel like trolling some more?

EDIT - To be clear, this is a compromise anyone makes when considering the purchase of a single prime lens as a walkaround, regardless of focal length. "Foot zooming" may not be "a thing", but it's sure what you have to do to get the composition you want when you don't have a zoom lens at your disposal. You & sub50 are talking semantics, when I'm talking actual, real world use. There is nothing inaccurate there at all. It's how you practically use a prime lens when that's the only lens you have on you.

To get the framing you want when all you have with you is a single prime, you have to move. Please point out to me how that is in any way inaccurate.
Edited by hokiealumnus - 4/10/14 at 7:37am
post #29 of 35
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Originally Posted by mz-n10 View Post

affordability plays a huge role in choosing camera equipment. i would love to pick up a new digital hasselblad to shoot landscape with but since i cant afford it. it is nothing but a desire and it should not dictate what gear i should purchase next.

I think you might have inverted my meaning here, lol. What I was pointing out is the typical slew of people chanting for the nifty fifty since it's so cheap -- which is all well and good if you're shooting film, full frame or portraits on a crop body. If the OP likes that perspective, well, more power to him, I suppose. I, as well as most seasoned shooters wouldn't consider 85mm to be a great focal length to stroll around with, and most novice photographers find that out pretty quickly -- don't buy it because it's cheap, save your money and buy something maybe a little more expensive if it suits your needs. All I will say is that it's not good to intentionally cripple your framing just for the sake of a "challenge". Photography should be something that feels more ethereal than it does frustrating.

@hokiealumnus, the reason why I suggested the X100 is that it's a great walk-around focal length (23mm, or ~35mm equiv), it's not much bigger than the huge 35/1.4 lenses you're looking at and can actually be had for less money. When I got mine, it changed the way I shot from then on out -- sure, not everyone will have the same experience, but I've used my D7000 three times in the past two years, and only for wide-angle BMX shooting. Versatility will always go to the DSLR, but if you want something to just grab and stuff in a coat pocket.... well, I'm getting long-winded here. redface.gif

I'm not trolling you, I'm offering you an opinion that comes from quite a bit of experience, especially with a lot of the posters in this forum being newcomers to photography.
post #30 of 35
Thanks sub50, I appreciate that. I added some more to my post to explain further, hope that helps clarify what I'm talking about.
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