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Well to make a rather long story short, my old workhorse 7970 died earlier this week, and I went hunting for a replacement card... all my reading seemed to show that a non reference r9 290 would be on average a 25% or 10-30fps depending on game improvement over the 7970. So I went out and got the MSI r9 290 4gb Gaming card and threw it in last night... did everything by the book clean install of drivers etc, and ran some benchmarks to compare the new card to the old one only to find that the 290 is on par or just ever so slightly better than my old 7970..

Now keep in mind the 7970 was running at 1225/1700 and the 290 is currently at 1050/1250.. I found that my firestrike benches are only 8200pts compared to my 7970s 7150pts. Metro 2033 scores are 82fps avg for the 290 and 76fps avg for the 7970, tomb raider 68fps avg on 290 64fps avg on 7970, unigine valley scores are 2230 for the 290 and 2170 for the 7970 (all benches are at 1080p max settings except for firestrike wich is demo version preset).

I just dont know.. I'm feeling really disenchanted right now.. was expecting a hell of alot more outta the $550 290 when right now its looking like I could have went out and got a 280x for $420 o/c'd it and called it a day saving 100 bucks... Hell I even threw a clean install of windows 8.1 at the problem today to take any residual driver issues outta the equasion and nada the results are exactly the same..

I mean were the 7970's at high overclocks just that beastly of a card? or is my 290 running really poorly?.... Also noting that the 290 is having very jittery gpu load spikes in afterburner.. and while a majority of the time the core clocks hold at 1050.. it will have about 10 or 15 little micro dips down into the 800's for like 2 seconds or so while running benchmarks.. temps are fine at 74c and power target is set to +50.. also rest of my rig is in my sig..
Edited by Dandraseth - 4/3/14 at 10:46pm
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the cards are super nova's that require 'alternative cooling' methods to unlock their true potential.. on stock cooling the PCB can leave you with a solid 2nd degree burn.. :2cents:

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Check your GPU temp and MHz after 20-30 min heavy load. My 290 gaming would throttle down to ~950 because temps were at 94 degrees even with fans at 100% and an extra $50 case fans. Either way it's only about a 15-30% increase from the 7970.

I returned mine for a 780ti.

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If you are on the beta bios, power target doesn't do anything which can affect throttling. Also, if your card is aftermarket you should probably be able to overclock it to near 1200/1600 (don't quote me on this I don't know if 290s oc better or worse than 290x's).
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Well its running rather cool at 75c right now... alot of what I'm seeing out in the forums/reviews is that 1150 core clock should be attainable with temps in the high 80's with the cards twin frozer 4 hsf.. I'm just having trouble believing an extra 100mhz core clock giving me any real tangible increases.
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100mhz gives more of an increase than on a 7970. The OC makes the cards with 290's

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I just disabled two of my 290's and ran firestrike at 1050/1250 like yours and scored 9600 w/ a graphics score of 11000.
    
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What driver are you on?
    
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Check your GPU temp and MHz after 20-30 min heavy load. My 290 gaming would throttle down to ~950 because temps were at 94 degrees even with fans at 100% and an extra $50 case fans. Either way it's only about a 15-30% increase from the 7970.

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Temps hold around 75 after long sessions.. and the core clocks hold also.. like i said its only these little wierd blips for like 2 seconds down into the 800's before going back to 1050.. I would have loved a 780ti but 550 was already more than I really had on hand in this emergency situation lol.. I was just expecting way better performance, especially with all the people saying a modest o/c can have the 290 catching the 290x
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@MrWhite... running 13.12's and yeah my score is quite a bit lower than yours.. I was figuring I shoulda been closer to you in terms of performance on firestrike..
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