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by all means dont take prodigy cases. They are way too much oversized for their use, also their inner design sucks miserably. Had one so i know what im talking about. Had non modular psu and it didnt fitted properly cause holes for wires are in wrong positions so my psu wasnt even fitting in properly. Second thing is that even if they have a nice airflow... its unsecured. There is only 1 dust filter inside which is pretty much stupid for optimized airflow cases.

If you want nice case with nice airflow and that dont look like a sphagetti box i would suggest you going for corsair 250d or Cooler Master Elite 130
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SG08/7 is a better choice then SG06/5 however i wouldn't go liquid with it. just get a good air cooler and you should be fine. as to which air cooler to use, that depends on your mobo selection. different mobo have the cpu socket on different locations so you must choose a cooler that works with the mobo.

i wouldn't get the case w/o the PSU. the silverstone units are not bad and they have short cables for the small chassis. if you get a different PSU, it may not fit and the cables will likely be too long for a small case like this.
That is interesting. I've read reviews and comments both on this site and places like newegg, in which people were a bit annoyed with cables being too long and getting a SFX psu or cable management in general.

As for mobo, I am hoping for something specific along these lines: Intel wifi, Intel LAN and no worse than Realtek 1150. I guess that really restricts or limits my options, right? smile.gif
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That is interesting. I've read reviews and comments both on this site and places like newegg, in which people were a bit annoyed with cables being too long and getting a SFX psu or cable management in general.

As for mobo, I am hoping for something specific along these lines: Intel wifi, Intel LAN and no worse than Realtek 1150. I guess that really restricts or limits my options, right? smile.gif

what you buy depends on your budget, if budget is unlimited, then obviously asus impact is the best mobo for ITX. as for cpu cooler, something like a NH-L12 fits on the impact quite nicely



(i know the image is not impact, but it has the same cpu socket location as well as the VRM daughter board to show clearances)
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what you buy depends on your budget, if budget is unlimited, then obviously asus impact is the best mobo for ITX. as for cpu cooler, something like a NH-L12 fits on the impact quite nicely



(i know the image is not impact, but it has the same cpu socket location as well as the VRM daughter board to show clearances)
Well, I wouldn't call the budget unlimited. wink.gif

Is that a Silverstone psu that goes with the case. I have a Corsair HX520W which fits some of these itx cases but probably a tight fit. I was trying to keep parts that won't sell for much. But, these cases probably are easier to work with if you have a SFX psu?

The motherboards I am interested in include:
Z87I-DELUXE - $200 (nice layout?)
Asrock Z87E-ITX - $164 (after $30 rebate)

Both have what I want but what do you think? Is the cpu socket placement in a decent location for most coolers that can go in these cases?
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the Z87I-DELUXE uses the same layout as the Impact (just a cheaper version of impact w/o some of the bells and whistles)

as for reusing the PSU you have, the cable length is going to be an issue. SFF cases really need short cable kit and if you don't have short cables, then you are making a cramped case even more cramped... best to just stick with the silverstone PSU.
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What's your thoughts on the Silverstone Raven RVZ01? I was reading the club thread and it sounds good but a few concerns. It looks really cramped in there so I really question the design. Another issue is where Silverstone decided to mount a 3.5" HDD. It'll sit on top of the PSU and reviewers mention it'll get hot. Having your HDD unnecessarily heated seems to be counterproductive. Also, it's puzzling why no one at Silverstone considered that before a prototype was designed. I guess there's nothing similar yet? I want something small and compact and even though it's not the smallest, that concept is appealing and it seems there's either a flaw with an otherwise interesting case or it's not available (e.g. NCase M1).
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RVZ01 is not a bad case. it's not a personal favorite however the internals are well designed and the internal space is well utilized. as for the HDD issue, it's not really meant to house a 3.5" hdd smile.gif most people building SFF/steam machines are going to use either SSD or 2.5" laptop drives. just because it "can" house a 3.5" drive doesn't mean it's really designed to use it smile.gif current best practice for building a machine is to use a SSD and a "storage drive" the storage drive is typically a slower drive (5400RPM rather then 7200RPM) so heat is less of an issue in the 1st place. the idea is if you need something fast, put it on the SSD. otherwise, put your porn on the storage drive biggrin.gif as for why silverstone put the HDD there, well, there is only so much room inside a SFF case and it's really the only place they can squeeze it in.

while NCase M1 is a well designed case, it does have some flaws. I do not like the idea that it has no air filters so i never really got interested in it. personally if i was going with small, i'd stick with SG05, but my favorite SFF case is the SG08. it's not the smallest, but it does everything i'm looking for in a SFF case.
post #18 of 42
I'd just like to mention that the Bitfenix Prodigy is only a little bigger then the Silverstone RVZ01. Its actually smaller in width and depth, its just double the height so everything fits nicely. Just thought I would put that out there. wink.gif
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I'd just like to mention that the Bitfenix Prodigy is only a little bigger then the Silverstone RVZ01. Its actually smaller in width and depth, its just double the height so everything fits nicely. Just thought I would put that out there. wink.gif
yeah but for the size it should be matx not itx case. it's only good for nice custom loops. Other than that there are no reasons for bitfenixes to be bought (had one, it's crap)
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I'd just like to mention that the Bitfenix Prodigy is only a little bigger then the Silverstone RVZ01. Its actually smaller in width and depth, its just double the height so everything fits nicely. Just thought I would put that out there. wink.gif

saying prodigy is "only a little bigger" then the RVZ01 is like saying a semi truck is "only a little bigger" then a minivan biggrin.gif
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