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Thanx Puck for first impressions, this is what I actually want to see. Point of view of power users. About scroll wheel I can only talk for G9 which is similar and I love it. Might be an overkill for a gaming mouse but also there is nothing wrong with it and its.. free tongue.gif

Chris your webpage still displays wrong weight smile.gif
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Originally Posted by Puck View Post

I have a few pictures alongside my G9X from every angle, and side by side Entous results from both mice using the same DPI/polling/pad that I will post in the morning.

Between the 502 and G9x, which do you like better overall? The G9x fits my hand like a glove, and I haven't found any mouse that could replace it. The next closest thing I found is a DA2013.
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the site also incorrectly says the max speed for the g100s is 4.08m/s. looks like a typo because it also says 120 inches per second, which would be 3.04...
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ok, this is pretty impressive, 12,000 dpi, no jitter. i do struggle drawing straight lines because of the extremely high sensitivity though


the weight distribution does feel a little odd. I think the front right and then the left feel quite heavy.

the sensor does feel way less responsive then my zowie ec2 evo cl, the more i'm using it the more i'm convinced its the sensor and not the weight.
Edited by Atavax - 4/9/14 at 7:33am
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Does that mean it has tons of smoothing? We need Skylit to come back and tell us what is really going on here smile.gif
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Originally Posted by Yodums View Post

Between the 502 and G9x, which do you like better overall? The G9x fits my hand like a glove, and I haven't found any mouse that could replace it. The next closest thing I found is a DA2013.

Haven't had it long enough to make my decision, but keep in mind I was absolutely in love with my G9x and had it for a long time. My only gripe with the G9x that it was a bit too short for my long hands. I can already tell though that the G502 is a more accurate mouse, not sure if that is the sensor itself or its more central location on the mouse that makes it feel more natural. Still getting used to it, so far my only complaint on the G502 is the lack of an indentation for your pinky - the G9x has a slight ridge that is perfect to rest your pinky in, while the G502 tapers all the way to the bottom.

Here are the pics and Entous results I promised. Keep in mind I changed NO settings from my G9x, just updated the logitech software center to ID it and verify settings were the same. They were cellphone pics done in the dark so are not the best quality.

Side by side shot:
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Thumb sides:
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Length (you can notice the lack of the pinky ledge on the G502):
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Nearly perfect palm grip for my 2XL hands. VERY comfortable!
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Another SBS comparison:
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Sensor locations/feet shape:
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G9x Entous:
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G502 Entous:
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For the Entous results, both mice DPI measured on the dot with high precision(within margin of error based on the user). The G502 recorded a higher max speed at the same polling, and I think it was limited to my arm speed - you will max out your reflexes well before maxing out the G502. I could not detect any jitter, smoothing, acceleration, or angle snapping on the G502- the sensor is marvelous. IMO, with a pinkly ledge/maybe 1/4" wider it would be the perfect mouse - for myself at least.

Keep in mind tests were done at the same exact settings for both mice, a very modest 1800DPI. The G502 may exhibit better or worse settings at a different DPI.
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Does that mean it has tons of smoothing? We need Skylit to come back and tell us what is really going on here smile.gif

As far as I can tell this thing has ZERO smoothing, acceleration, rounding, snapping, prediction, etc etc. Say what you will about the shape or design, but their is no doubt that the sensor is very impressive.
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post #238 of 3264
I did a quick Enotus test as well at my normal 2000dpi.

Enotus Mouse Test v0.1.4
Mouse: n/a
Model: Logitech G502
Resolution: 2000 dpi \excellent\
Polling speed: 999 Hz
Max speed: 4.92 m/s (387114 points/s) \excellent\
Precision: 99.3 % (0.10 m/s) \excellent\
Smoothness: 8.7 % \ok\
Debug data: [('32', '0.08'), ('31', '0.08'), ('25', '0.07'), ('30', '0.07'), ('30', '0.07'), ('28', '0.07'), ('27', '0.07'), ('26', '0.07'), ('25', '0.07'), ('22', '0.07')]

I concur with Puck, the sensor is great!
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As far as I can tell this thing has ZERO smoothing, acceleration, rounding, snapping, prediction, etc etc. Say what you will about the shape or design, but their is no doubt that the sensor is very impressive.

have you noticed smoothing in any other mice?
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Originally Posted by Puck View Post

As far as I can tell this thing has ZERO smoothing, acceleration, rounding, snapping, prediction, etc etc. Say what you will about the shape or design, but their is no doubt that the sensor is very impressive.

Yeah, I don't have this mouse but I believe you. I personally can't feel any smoothing or lag on 4000dpi 3090 sensor mice or Zowie evo non native steps. BUT I know some people like r0ach for example think this is a huge problem.

EDIT: I never use 450dpi step on Zowies so don't know if its laggier than 1150/2300.
Edited by trhead - 4/9/14 at 7:33am
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