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Tried this mouse in best buy.. shocking disappointed ...... Is there a way of getting the g9x back logitech? I mean why discontinue the best mouse ever you guys have created for a garbage like this?


Now I have to search the interwebs to buy 2 or 3 g9x due to this company changing what is not broken.

my rant ends here.mad.gif

Dude, try the M45 already.
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How it hasnt been released yet?

It's out in the US in Best Buy stores everywhere AFAIK...

Also Amazon.

http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Proteus-Tunable-Customizable-910-004074/dp/B00IRHE892/ref=sr_1_sc_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1397159424&sr=8-1-spell&keywords=logitch+g502
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Dude, try the M45 already.
It's out in the US in Best Buy stores everywhere AFAIK...

Also Amazon.

http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Proteus-Tunable-Customizable-910-004074/dp/B00IRHE892/ref=sr_1_sc_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1397159424&sr=8-1-spell&keywords=logitch+g502

You advising me to get m45 in replacement of the almighty G9x? For real?
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Dude, try the M45 already.

what about its sensor? smoothing?


after a month of use of the DA2013 I switched back to the MMO7....what should I say? I thought that smoothness was bull**** like acceleration, but it was none.
You get used to acceleration, but not to smoothness nor inconsistent accel.
the PTE sensor is the snappiest and most responsive I ever used (G700 and DA2013), i can flickshot multiple opponents much faster.
I am not bothered at all by acceleration(if it's consistent, not like the avago 9800) , Zaxis issue nor weight.

i love the DA2013 shape....maybe the new mamba is the best option for me? (weighty and PTE sensor)
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Dude, try the M45 already.
It's out in the US in Best Buy stores everywhere AFAIK...

Also Amazon.

http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Proteus-Tunable-Customizable-910-004074/dp/B00IRHE892/ref=sr_1_sc_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1397159424&sr=8-1-spell&keywords=logitch+g502

Usually ships within 1 to 2 months. lol
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Usually ships within 1 to 2 months. lol
It was available a couple of days ago I ordered mine should be here tomorrow, I guess they ran out of stock.
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what about its sensor? smoothing?


after a month of use of the DA2013 I switched back to the MMO7....what should I say? I thought that smoothness was bull**** like acceleration, but it was none.
You get used to acceleration, but not to smoothness nor inconsistent accel.
the PTE sensor is the snappiest and most responsive I ever used (G700 and DA2013), i can flickshot multiple opponents much faster.
I am not bothered at all by acceleration(if it's consistent, not like the avago 9800) , Zaxis issue nor weight.

i love the DA2013 shape....maybe the new mamba is the best option for me? (weighty and PTE sensor)

Do me a favor and NEVER judge smoothing overall by the S3988. There is no acceleration on the PTE. I straight up kill with the Avior, and I don't find any difference in latency between it and my 3090 mice.

Also, the new Mamba is a piece of ****. It has dynamic CPI scaling which is garbage. Do your research and use different mice before straight up bashing this sensor or that sensor or blanket-blaming based on smoothing. Smoothing only came up because a certain member of this forum made a big deal about it, and while it applies in various forms, it is very minute on the 3310 as far as I can feel.
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You advising me to get m45 in replacement of the almighty G9x? For real?

Of course I am. There is another member of this forum who has made the switch and couldn't be happier. The sensor is far, far better and the shape is quite similar.
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Do me a favor and NEVER judge smoothing overall by the S3988. There is no acceleration on the PTE. I straight up kill with the Avior, and I don't find any difference in latency between it and my 3090 mice.

Also, the new Mamba is a piece of ****. It has dynamic CPI scaling which is garbage. Do your research and use different mice before straight up bashing this sensor or that sensor or blanket-blaming based on smoothing. Smoothing only came up because a certain member of this forum made a big deal about it, and while it applies in various forms, it is very minute on the 3310 as far as I can feel.
Of course I am. There is another member of this forum who has made the switch and couldn't be happier. The sensor is far, far better and the shape is quite similar.
Unfortunately I have to agree with him. Though the MMO7 is crap for reliability, when the mouse is functioning at 100%, it is perfect. I would do about 20% better in FPS's and Mechwarrior Online with my MMO7 to the G602 I use now. Not sure why. Though I agree with you the mouse itself is garbage.
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You advising me to get m45 in replacement of the almighty G9x? For real?
Just went to a m45 after years of my g9 and then g9x. Yes, he is for real. It is the best replacement I've found BY FAR.

Edit: http://www.overclock.net/t/1479217/new-logitech-g502-proteus-core/40_40#post_22075148
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I plan to make a test rig to remove the human error variable.
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@Cpate:

How do you address the problem that this is a "gaming mouse", yet the vast majority of game players use 6/11 cursor speed settings, and between 400-800 DPI. When you release new sensors with DPI over ten times higher than it needs to be, it requires unacceptably high amounts of anti-jitter smoothing to make the high DPI levels less eratic, while also destroying cursor quality for all low DPI levels in the process from the high smoothing applied.

What exactly has Logitech done with this G502 mouse to fix this problem? If your answer is nothing, we can all go ahead and write this mouse off as a scam because it would do the opposite of what a gaming mouse is supposed to do, ie: perform well in gaming.

To give an idea of what I consider acceptable smoothing, the 3500 DPI G400 is the absolute highest you can go, while I consider the 4000 DPI firmware of the A3090 completely unacceptable smoothing-wise.

This is a totally new sensor, and no compromises were made to reach 12k DPI since that wasnt their design goal. They didn't target a DPI then scale a sensor to reach it, they targeted specs and the sensor happened to be capable of 12k DPI without making any sacrifices. I'm sure with some scaling and smoothing this could have been a 20k DPI mouse if they wanted to play the useless DPI game - one of their chiif engineers has a very interesting (if overly technical) discussion on this already on Youtube, basically saying DPI is nowhere near as important a stat as most manufacturers would have you believe.

After two days of use I am more then happy with the G502. It is the best sensor I have ever used and I have been gaming since the 90's at a wide range of skills. Only gripe was the lack of pinky ledge that I actually only notice while browsing (not gaming), and the left button takes getting used to since my first 15 minutes were spent cursing at missed kills due to randomly changing DPI.

My beloved G9x is now wrapped in a rubber band in a spare parts bin as a backup, next to an 8 year old G5 and where a DA would be if I didn't give it away for free.
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Just went to a m45 after years of my g9 and then g9x. Yes, he is for real. It is the best replacement I've found BY FAR.

Edit: http://www.overclock.net/t/1479217/new-logitech-g502-proteus-core/40_40#post_22075148

There you are. I knew someone had switched happily.
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I plan to make a test rig to remove the human error variable.
This is a totally new sensor, and no compromises were made to reach 12k DPI since that wasnt their design goal. They didn't target a DPI then scale a sensor to reach it, they targeted specs and the sensor happened to be capable of 12k DPI without making any sacrifices. I'm sure with some scaling and smoothing this could have been a 20k DPI mouse if they wanted to play the useless DPI game - one of their chiif engineers has a very interesting (if overly technical) discussion on this already on Youtube, basically saying DPI is nowhere near as important a stat as most manufacturers would have you believe.

After two days of use I am more then happy with the G502. It is the best sensor I have ever used and I have been gaming since the 90's at a wide range of skills. Only gripe was the lack of pinky ledge that I actually only notice while browsing (not gaming), and the left button takes getting used to since my first 15 minutes were spent cursing at missed kills due to randomly changing DPI.

My beloved G9x is now wrapped in a rubber band in a spare parts bin as a backup, next to an 8 year old G5 and where a DA would be if I didn't give it away for free.

Can't wait to take a look at whatever system you come up with. We haven't seen proper benchmarks since the famous ESReality article.
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Unfortunately I have to agree with him. Though the MMO7 is crap for reliability, when the mouse is functioning at 100%, it is perfect. I would do about 20% better in FPS's and Mechwarrior Online with my MMO7 to the G602 I use now. Not sure why. Though I agree with you the mouse itself is garbage.

Super unreliable, the MMO7. PTE has a lot of potential, but too much work has been done lately to hide flaws in it that are screwing with tracking (dynamic CPI scaling, dual sensors).
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