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Any current owners of the G502 have any issues with the left scroll button? Mine will not click after a number of times unless it is in freescroll and then it works flawlessly. If I middle click, it will come back but then runs the same routine of becoming unclickable. Just wondered if I am alone with this issue.
Edited by VagueRant - 4/12/14 at 10:20am
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Originally Posted by Derp View Post

I'm merely sharing my learning experience. Others may have been asking the same questions like why a weight system for a mouse that is already heavier than most others? Why a free spinning scroll wheel on a gaming mouse? I found these answers in these videos made by logitech. I was too narrow minded before so i apologized.

Not trolling at all. I linked to the videos. not like I made anything up... or are you saying Logitech is trolling themselves?
Lol the infinite scroll is an OPTION that can be disabled with one button click. If you don't like it (I HATE it and it was one of the first things I complained about), dont use it. As for the weigh argument again, that is all relative. The mouse does not feel heavy at all if you are using the grips it is made for - palm or palm/claw. IF you use a tiny fingertip grip then of course you would want a smaller, lighter mouse. If 15-20g is a deal breaker for you then maybe you should be doing grip/wrist exercises instead of playing games, since it is NOT a big deal at all. I barely notice the extra weight even compared to a ~15g lighter DA2013...and the 502 sensor completely blows away the DA2013 sensor.

For those reading this thread for information, keep tally that almost everyone who actually tried the mouse has loved it and only had 1 or 2 complaints...yet those who never touched one are bashing it the most smile.gif
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Originally Posted by Arc0s View Post

Received the mouse today, played some BF4 and CSGO.

What I like about it:

- The sensor feels amazing, better than all the 3090 mice I've tried, feels even better than the 3310; very very accurate and snappy.
- The shape is not bad at all, played around three and a half hours straight and my hand didn't get tired or cramped at all.
- The buttons feel very nice (Omrons?) easy to click but not too easy that you click by accident (looking at you DA 2013).
- Coating, feet, and rubber sides all feel really nice and the coating doesn't hold finger prints like on the Rival.

What I don't like:

- The weight, it's not the brick I was expecting but it's still too heavy for my taste, feels considerably heavier than the Rival and this can get tiring on long gaming sessions specially if you are a low sens player.
- The "sniper" button, this is the real deal breaker for me. My hand is 19 cm from base to tip of middle finger (Medium/Small?) and use a palm/claw grip. The problem is the sniper button is too far back and my thumb will accidentally click it all the time, I disabled the button to prevent unwanted actions but it still takes away from the ergonomics of the mouse and it becomes really annoying to constantly click the button by accident mad.gif

I will probably end up returning the mouse, I would have gotten used to the weight since everything else is really nice. But the damned sniper button annoys the crap out of me and I'm pretty sure I will never get used to that. I hope Logitech releases some lighter mice with the same great sensor. I own a couple of mice if any one would like comparison pictures let me know which mouse and I'll post some up.
Thanks for another actual user review thumb.gif. I have even larger hands, but hold my mouse lower down with my thumb itself on the side ledge and have never hit the sniper button. I can see though with more of a claw grip it could be an issue. The left click was the issue for me, but I got used to it after a few sessions and my last two gaming sessions I didn't change the DPI by accident even once.
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- The "sniper" button, this is the real deal breaker for me. My hand is 19 cm from base to tip of middle finger (Medium/Small?) and use a palm/claw grip. The problem is the sniper button is too far back and my thumb will accidentally click it all the time, I disabled the button to prevent unwanted actions but it still takes away from the ergonomics of the mouse and it becomes really annoying to constantly click the button by accident mad.gif
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i disliked this as well and made a note of it in my short review (somewhere now buried in this thread)
as soon as i installed LGS the first thing i did was disable the sniper button then got some tape and taped it down. now i can hold the mouse in my more natural comfortable grip without worrying about misclicking the sniper button.

its such a bad and unnecessary feature imo or at least in this case, the positioning of it is bad if you have a hand 17.5cm+

heres some enotus

Edited by discoprince - 4/12/14 at 1:39am
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Side note - Francois Morier, the lead Logitech engineer on the project to design the sensor for Proteus Core, is at the show with me. If any of you will be there feel free to stop by and we'll be happy to talk to you about it.

He's the King.
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Originally Posted by Arc0s View Post

Received the mouse today, played some BF4 and CSGO.

What I like about it:

- The sensor feels amazing, better than all the 3090 mice I've tried, feels even better than the 3310; very very accurate and snappy.
- The shape is not bad at all, played around three and a half hours straight and my hand didn't get tired or cramped at all.
- The buttons feel very nice (Omrons?) easy to click but not too easy that you click by accident (looking at you DA 2013).
- Coating, feet, and rubber sides all feel really nice and the coating doesn't hold finger prints like on the Rival.

What I don't like:

- The weight, it's not the brick I was expecting but it's still too heavy for my taste, feels considerably heavier than the Rival and this can get tiring on long gaming sessions specially if you are a low sens player.
- The "sniper" button, this is the real deal breaker for me. My hand is 19 cm from base to tip of middle finger (Medium/Small?) and use a palm/claw grip. The problem is the sniper button is too far back and my thumb will accidentally click it all the time, I disabled the button to prevent unwanted actions but it still takes away from the ergonomics of the mouse and it becomes really annoying to constantly click the button by accident mad.gif

I will probably end up returning the mouse, I would have gotten used to the weight since everything else is really nice. But the damned sniper button annoys the crap out of me and I'm pretty sure I will never get used to that. I hope Logitech releases some lighter mice with the same great sensor. I own a couple of mice if any one would like comparison pictures let me know which mouse and I'll post some up.

That's why it would be useless for me.
For a FPS mouse it just has too overloaded buttons, heavy (prolly could even loose weight if they remove unnecessary stuff), shape worse compared to the Rival. Ugly &.. ugly.

Thanks for the cover up.

You're better off with a better shaped 3310 than with this brick.
Edited by Amperial - 4/12/14 at 3:31am
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I have to agree with Arc0s and Imperial.
But aswell with Ino, product design decisions are obvious for the general market, people here sum it all up.

Only thing stil lacking are pictures of the internals.

I am curious if logitech has got another version of the pixart/avago 3310.
Like they had the avago 3055 or the A3080E/S3095.

If so curious what Razer will be releasing this year.
Seeing they aswell have had custom optical led sensors.
Apart from global sold avago 3050, 3090, they had a custom variation of it with the S3988, S3888, S3668 etc.

So for upcoming products, I am looking forward to see what Razer will come up with.
And seeing logitech released there g502 now I am curious when roccat will release there military kone pure optical with the avago 3310.

Then for the rest of the brands, curious what minor brands like zowie, Ozone, thermaltake etc. will do with the avago 3310 so this year could still be promosing.
Mabay youre shape is still not here but other brands have still not released newer models with a 3310.
Edited by CtrlAltel1te - 4/12/14 at 4:58am
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I think the sniper button issue is more to do with finger length then hand size. My thumb hasn't ever hit the sniper button by accident, how I hold the mouse my thumbnail isn't past the blue portion of the thumb ledge so it never will. If you have shorter fingers or are trying to hold it with your fingertips on the very front edge of the mouse, then your thumb will end up on the sniper button. I would still rather not have the button there at all, but it is not an issue for me. Gamecrate had it two weeks early and gave it a very favorable, if not very technical, review as well http://gamecrate.newegg.com/logitech-g502-proteus-core-review/.

I think its a very good sign when the only complaints about a mouse, especially on OCN, are about opinions like shape and weight.

When hyperglides release feet for it I can get some internal shots. Right now I am worried if I pull the feet they wont stick back on.
Edited by Puck - 4/12/14 at 6:56am
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I think the sniper button issue is more to do with finger length then hand size. My thumb hasn't ever hit the sniper button by accident, how I hold the mouse my thumbnail isn't past the blue portion of the thumb ledge so it never will. If you have shorter fingers or are trying to hold it with your fingertips on the very front edge of the mouse, then your thumb will end up on the sniper button. I would still rather not have the button there at all, but it is not an issue for me. Gamecrate had it two weeks early and gave it a very favorable, if not very technical, review as well http://gamecrate.newegg.com/logitech-g502-proteus-core-review/.

I think its a very good sign when the only complaints about a mouse, especially on OCN, are about opinions like shape and weight.

When hyperglides release feet for it I can get some internal shots. Right now I am worried if I pull the feet they wont stick back on.

I read the Gamecrate review too. I think this mouse is mostly suited palm grippers because of the sniper button. If you try to fingertip, it would probably be to easy to hit it on accident. I haven't got the chance to really try mine out yet as I'm on vacationin the US, but the shape seemed really good for my palm grip as far as I could tell, and the mouse wasn't so heavy either. I can't be sure about the sniper button placement before I get home though.
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Well I think I will get this. Been using Logitech MX500 shape since MX500. With a brief use of the MX300 shape. So will try this out. The edge lip has always been a slight issiue for me. So lets see if its changed here
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Please do a double cam video testing that tests the sensor.
I want to know if i want to consider this over the AVIOR 7000.
TBH
It seems like a mouse with big marketing and that's it.
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So this logitech mouse has a *BADASS* sensor? Because I'm looking for the most accurate and precise performing mouse, and the ergonomics of this mouse doesn't dissuade me from purchasing it. The price, however, does.
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