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How long has it been since you did? I find it hard to believe someone who would try and ridicule someone over their eyesight would miss out specific statements such as this...

My point remains the same. Factor in that consoles gamers generally sit a five to six feet away from a TV, unlike PC gamers who sit a foot or two away from a monitor, as well as specific upscaling tools in the consoles, the difference really isn't as big as people would make it out to be.

People act like the difference is suddenly going to change how the game looks on a radical scale when the reality is the difference, while there is one, is not really that great. All it does is make the image look sharper.
The difference is massive, even 900p is a VAST improvement on 720p. As I'm currently back at my parents house for the holidays I tested 576p vs 720p vs 900p vs 1080p on F:NV using a 32 inch screen and a laptop at about 4 feet, my longsighted parents couldn't tell 576 > 720 but could tell 720 > 900 and 900 > 1080 stating it looked much clearer and less jagged. Yes there was no AA or advanced upscaling but 720p looks dire on a large screen for pretty much all gaming intents and purposes.

My eyesight is better than 6/6 and having let myself get used to 1080p, going back to 720, even sat across the room with a 40inch screen it looks messy.

I don't however see the problem with giving users the choice, more visual options is something that allows the user to customise the experience as they see fit.
Edited by LucidNonsenze - 4/5/14 at 7:31am
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this is honestly really smart. i wish they would have allowed for this in previous gen games as well (dark souls, i'm looking at you)
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Isn't 60fps better sometimes than never? It doesn't seem too disruptive to me tbh

Some people prefer a smooth experience over one that has points of high fps and points of low fps. Believe it or not, there are people out there who want consistency.
    
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I don't see much of a difference. Then again, I viewed the gif using my Note 3.
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I'd rather have slightly blurry 720p 60 frames per second than a 1080p 30 lag per second, if it actually manages 60FPS.
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Yes there was no advanced upscaling.


Which makes comparing 720p and 1080p, for debates regarding consoles, on a PC a bit pointless. The upscaling technology that the consoles employ makes a difference, especially when games are developed with upscaling in mind.

I play Titanfall on a Xbox One and a 60" TV, running through an AV Amp HDMI passthrough, sitting around 6 feet away and honestly it looks pretty damn good. It doesn't look like a blurry mess. The 792p native resolution really makes very little difference to the end product if the upscaling is done well.  Would it look any better at native 1080p resolution? Might look a bit sharper, sure. Would the difference be a radically drastic one? Absolutely not. It's not really any more drastic a difference than that between native and supersampled. There is a difference but it's nothing for fanboys to absolutely get worked up about. Especially for a £300 console.


Edited by Lifeshield - 4/5/14 at 8:31am
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The 792p native resolution really makes very little difference to the end product if the upscaling is done well.
The evidence I've seen about it are that it makes a lot of difference if you know what you're looking for, and that once you notice it, makes it hard to ignore judging by the number of Xbone users complaining about it in Titanfall/BF4.
http://cdn4.wccftech.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/resolution-comparison-two.png
http://cdn2.wccftech.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/resolution-comparison-one.png

Having personally seen it on 360 games it doesn't seem to make a massive difference other than curbing some of the overwhelming jaggedness.
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Forget this, give me FF15 and make it not suck!
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The difference is massive, even 900p is a VAST improvement on 720p. As I'm currently back at my parents house for the holidays I tested 576p vs 720p vs 900p vs 1080p on F:NV using a 32 inch screen and a laptop at about 4 feet, my longsighted parents couldn't tell 576 > 720 but could tell 720 > 900 and 900 > 1080 stating it looked much clearer and less jagged. Yes there was no AA or advanced upscaling but 720p looks dire on a large screen for pretty much all gaming intents and purposes.

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I don't however see the problem with giving users the choice, more visual options is something that allows the user to customise the experience as they see fit.

I have a really hard time believing that your parents couldn't tell the difference between 576 -> 720 but could for 900 -> 1080. A 25% increase in vertical resolution vs 20%. If you can't see a larger difference at a lower resolution, you should not be able to tell a difference with the smaller change at a higher resolution.
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I have a really hard time believing that your parents couldn't tell the difference between 576 -> 720 but could for 900 -> 1080. A 25% increase in vertical resolution vs 20%. If you can't see a larger difference at a lower resolution, you should not be able to tell a difference with the smaller change at a higher resolution.
I actually made a mistake, I was thinking I'd put it at standard definition which is 576 but I was using the closest option which was 800x600, They honestly couldn't tell between 600 and 720, probably because unprocessed 720p still looks very blocky and jagged whereas with 900p you're starting to get smoother edges
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