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Neither of the three, but nice try kiddo. Come back when you can have a sensible conversation without trying to insult people.

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just my PC and Xbox One

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Funny how it always seems that those that own an X1 always say resolution doesn't matter or that they can't tell. I don't own either console so no biased on my end...just pure observation from these forums and elsewhere online.

I mean, honestly, if you can't tell the difference between 720p and 1080p then, as I said before, you're either trolling, need glasses, or are an X1 fanboy. No one else here is saying the same thing...it's only you...so what gives?
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I:SS isn't stable 60 FPS, it uses an unlocked frame rate that's usually around 50 FPS so it shouldn't really be a requirement for PC.

I: SS has variable framerate from 60 to 30 fps. Lets say, 45 AVG fps? To achieve than on PC, you need a GTX780 minimun. Let's do some maths:

Nvidia GTX780 -> $500
i5 2500K -> $240
4GB RAM DDR3 -> $40
Asus Motherboard -> $130
The rest: case, HDD, DVD Drive and all the peripherals -> $150

Total: $1060
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But I already have a PC why do I need another? Wouldn't I just buy a new gpu when needed?

Did you factor in the Big screen TV too?
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Ryse looked incredible when I played it.
I know someone who bought an xbone based primarily on the trailers for this title and was sorely disappointed with the graphics on the final product.
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I wasn't entirely serious about that statement, but there is some truth to it.

I'd take FXAA over jaggies any day. SMAA even more so. SMAA S2x (which is essentially MSAAx2 with SMAA applied to it) is so efficient and looks great. SMAAx4 (SMAA with 2x spacial super-sampling and 2x temporal super-sampling) is even more amazing, but temporal SS isn't available on multi-GPU setups so I can't use SMAA T2x or SMAAx4.

For most older games, I just do 4x SSAA, it's a flick of a switch on AMD and looks great.
I've tried Crytechs, AMD's and SweetFX's implementations of SMAA and I prefer the no AA at 1080p. Don't get me wrong it's VASTLY better than FXAA but it's still notable. MSAA is still for me the only AA type my PC can afford (in recent releases) that provides sufficient quality.
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Because we need to be fair. From the three, Crysis 3 and Metro LL are the best looking ones.
At the end of the day, I guess everything is really subjective. A PS4 -> $400. A PC that can run Crysis 3 1080p, 60 fps maxed out -> $1000. I'm just saying.

I think Infamous is hands down the best looking game so far out of all of them...PC or not. The details, lighting, animations, etc...nothing else really matches it.

Yes M:LL and C3 look awesome, for sure, but over all they just aren't on the same level IMO. This is coming from someone who doesn't even own a PS4 or has any stake in it...just basing this purely on what I've seen.
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Doesn't quite look like going from 720p to 1080p on PC tho.
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I: SS has variable framerate from 60 to 30 fps. Lets say, 45 AVG fps? To achieve than on PC, you need a GTX780 minimun. Let's do some maths:

Nvidia GTX780 -> $500
i5 2500K -> $240
4GB RAM DDR3 -> $40
Asus Motherboard -> $130
The rest: case, HDD, DVD Drive and all the peripherals -> $150

Total: $1060

No dude...the PS4 is using something like a 7870 equivalent GPU...you could run Infamous 3 on a PC with very similar specs at the same resolution/frame rate/graphic options. GTX780 is like twice as fast as the PS4's GPU...hell...my 2 year old 7970 is twice the TFlops of the ENTIRE PS4. Sooo...yeah...SS looks impressive, for sure, best looking game I've ever seen, but it wouldn't require some monster PC to run it just as it doesn't require some monster console to run it.
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No dude...the PS4 is using something like a 7870 equivalent GPU...you could run Infamous 3 on a PC with very similar specs at the same resolution/frame rate/graphic options. GTX780 is like twice as fast as the PS4's GPU...hell...my 2 year old 7970 is twice the TFlops of the ENTIRE PS4. Sooo...yeah...SS looks impressive, for sure, best looking game I've ever seen, but it wouldn't require some monster PC to run it just as it doesn't require some monster console to run it.
This, in fact in some multiplatform games such as BF4, an FX 6300+7870 will give you better fidelity, FPS and resolution than a PS4.
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I: SS has variable framerate from 60 to 30 fps. Lets say, 45 AVG fps? To achieve than on PC, you need a GTX780 minimun. Let's do some maths:

Nvidia GTX780 -> $500
i5 2500K -> $240
4GB RAM DDR3 -> $40
Asus Motherboard -> $130
The rest: case, HDD, DVD Drive and all the peripherals -> $150

Total: $1060

I:SS is a 1080p title with a modified SMAA T2x anti aliasing. SMAA T2x has no spatial super sampling component, unlike SMAA S2x and SMAA x4 so it has practically no performance impact. It is the SMAA medium setting in this comparison. As you can see, it has a <2 FPS impact (<5%). FXAA has a much lower impact, essentially completely free.

Crysis 3 at 1080p, with very high settings (the highest graphics preset in the game) and FXAA will maintain 30 FPS minimum with just a GTX 670. We have to subtract at least 1 FPS for SMAA T2x, but that's an inconsequential change. This test was carried out in "Safeties Off" which isn't the most demanding map, but Infamous Second Son actually has dips to low 20's at times, so we'll be fine. Because the GTX 670 is an EOL product, we'll take the GTX 760, which is ever so slightly weaker than the GTX 670 and can be had for $250. With driver optimizations that have come out since, the GTX 760 will easily meet the 30 FPS min requirement.

That easily cuts it down to $810 for a PC that matches your requirements. Of course, the 2500K isn't needed either and we still have to remember that Crysis 3 likely has higher polygon counts and such so you're rendering more in C3 than in I:SS.

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I've tried Crytechs, AMD's and SweetFX's implementations of SMAA and I prefer the no AA at 1080p. Don't get me wrong it's VASTLY better than FXAA but it's still notable. MSAA is still for me the only AA type my PC can afford (in recent releases) that provides sufficient quality.

Crytek's SMAA S2x and 4x solution is vastly superior to MSAA + an SMAA injector because Crytek's solution applies SMAA after the spatial super sampling process, but before the image is scaled back down to the output resolution. Crytek's solution is how SMAA is supposed to be used, injectors are only a small band-aid.
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No dude...the PS4 is using something like a 7870 equivalent GPU...you could run Infamous 3 on a PC with very similar specs at the same resolution/frame rate/graphic options. GTX780 is like twice as fast as the PS4's GPU...hell...my 2 year old 7970 is twice the TFlops of the ENTIRE PS4. Sooo...yeah...SS looks impressive, for sure, best looking game I've ever seen, but it wouldn't require some monster PC to run it just as it doesn't require some monster console to run it.

I don't care what PC is capable of, or if the GTX780 is 5x times better than the PS4. In practice, the PC is far from being 5x better than a PS4 because hey, the PS4 has the best looking game right now up to date. The PC has great hardware, but devs don't take advantage of that at all, so it ends up being useless.

Also (and as a PC gamer I was) I decided to go after consoles because I started to hate how I was with gaming. I started to care much MUCH more about the graphics of the games than about having fun with the game. That's why I was constantly upgrading my hardware to max out the games and get all the eye candy. In the past, I would have bought a game just to see how it looked on my PC, even when I had no intentions in playing it. And whether you like it or not, that's how most PC gamers are; they care more about the graphics than about the game itself.
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