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Big Air vs Budget Air: Cryorig R1 Ultimate vs Arctic Freezer I 30 Comparison

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I have been considering upgrading my CPU cooler for months now. There are so many reviews out there for coolers all using many different CPU's from I7 9xx 39xx 49xx 4770k 3770k, AMD FX 8350, 6300, of course they are all useful but many are contradictory to each others results, especially at the lower end of the spectrum I include here the Hyper Evo 212 Arctic I30, Xigmatek Gaia and I'm sure people can add many more.

It is established that the top air coolers seem to generally perform very closely. The ones I have considered personally are the Cryorig R1, Thermalright Silver Arrows, Noctua NHD14, Phanteks PHTC 14 PE Akasa Venom Medusa. I went with the Cryorig R1 because my case has 170mm exactly clearance for a cooler and, well its new and looked coolest IMO smile.gif

I wanted to post my results to show exactly how much difference upgrading from the budget to the high end will give in an average case with good airflow so that someone in my situation might find it useful, and also because I enjoy messing around with fans and testing biggrin.gif

Anyway some dodgy phone pics of my setup it is the rig in my signature, please excuse my cable management this isn't the rate my cable thread wink.gif I assure you that airflow is not impeded, and the same setup is used for both coolers.

Before testing I removed all dust filters and cleaned with a can of air, also blew out the heatsink on the I30 thoroughly after removing the fan. The i30 is mounted as the instructions state with Arctic MX 4 paste. I'm also using the stock F12 fan that came with the cooler as I found it performs exactly the same as with a Silverstone ap121 except its a lot quieter and I want my GT on intake duty.

Front Intakes Gentle Typhoon AP15 and Silverstone AP121




Case interior with the Arctic I30, Silverstone AP121 bottom intake and top front intake, Arctic F12 rear exhaust, there is also a Thermalright TY140 exhausting over the GPU which I neglected to photograph redface.gif



I removed the I30 after testing and used the Arctic cleaning kit and cotton buds (q tips if you're amercian) to clear off the old paste



Now the Cryorig R1 Ultimate installed, Stock 2x X140 fans with included Cryorig paste using the 'grain of rice' method.




Method and results:

I tested at absolute stock settings and then ran three different tests at increasing levels of overclock. BIOS settings were exactly the same in all overclocked tests except for manual vcore which was changed to suit how my distinctly average 3570k is stable at each setting.

LLC was set to Ultra high because at that level my motherboard is closest to the exact Voltage set in BIOS. CPU PLL is set to 1.65 as this is the lowest I'm stable to shave off a few degrees C

Both coolers were controlled via PWM at the same standard setting from BIOS. All case fans running at 12v from fan controller

Core temperatures measured using Realtemp, CPU voltage as recorded in CPUZ. I tested using Intel Burn Test, however I only ran a short 10 pass at normal as I know for a fact already that my I30 struggles at the higher settings and I wanted to maintain temps under 90c maximum. System was obviously reset between tests and idle temps allowed to return to normal.

Tested @ stock: Auto voltage
Ambient 21c
Arctic Freezer I30 1.200 V
62/68/68/65. AVG 66.5c

Ambient 22c
Cryorig R1 Ultimate 1.200V
59/65/65/61 AVG 62.5c

Tested @ 4.0 GHZ
Ambient 21c
Arctic Freezer I30 1.144V
62/68/68/65 AVG 65.75c

Ambient 21.8c
Cryorig R1 1.144V
59/64/64/61 AVG 62c

Tested @4.2 GHZ
Ambient 21.5c
Arctic Freezer I30 1.224V
71/77/78/72 AVG 74.5c

Ambient 22c
Cryorig R1 1.224 V
66/73/74/68 AVG 70.25c

Tested @ 4.4 GHZ
Ambient 21c
Artic Freezer I30 1.304V
79/89/90/82 AVG 85c

Ambient 22c
Cryorig R1 1.304V
75/83/84/74 AVG 80c

As you can see as the load voltage and multiplier becomes higher the Cryorig pulls further away from the I30. I am now able to run at 4.4 GHZ 24/7. With the Arctic I 30 I wasn't comfortable at 4.3 GHZ with the temps I was getting under Prime and IBT for testing so lowered to 4.2 GHZ.

During further testing I have discovered that I need 1.32 volts to be completely 24/7 stable at 4.4 GHZ. The Cryorig can do 50 passes of IBT on max RAM with a maximum hottest core temperature of 87c Prime 95 27.9 custom blend temps a little lower as expected. I know for a fact my I30 would be making me cry at that level after 5 minutes it went over 90c at 4.3 GHZ before.

If you want to know if its worth it I'm going to say yes, but its subjective. You are not IMO from my results going to be overclocking a crazy amount more with a big air cooler vs a good budget one, but if you are the kind of person that enjoys eeking out every % increase that you can and enjoys playing around with your rig then it is definately worth it. Law of diminishing returns thumb.gif

The other test I would love to do is grab a H100i and H80i and test those against The R1 with 3 fans. Most tests put the h100i ahead of big air at 'extreme' setting but some contradict this and some have the h80i similar as well, when the funds allow it I probably will.

Feel free to comment/ pick apart my methods I do these kind of test for myself every so often but its the first time I felt it might be useful to share. smile.gif
Edited by Slink3Slyde - 4/5/14 at 7:04am
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Nicely done! thumb.gif

A few questions:
  • What was the fan speed / noise level in each test?
  • What was the air temp going into cooler? Room temp and temp of air in front of cooler in the case are not the same.. and often change when coolers are changed. (2nd link in sig has a cheap way to monitor cooler intake temp)
  • Is R1 quieter under load than I30 was?

The last "midrange cooling" coolers I ran were Ultra-120A, Zaward Vapor 120, AXP-100 and HR-02 Macho. All are quite good but R1 Ultimate, Cogage Arrow, Silver Arrow SB-E, Silver Arrow IB-E, and PH-TC14PE cool better. The biggest difference is how quiet the top coolers are. I can hardly hear them. Even when CPU is running 100% HDDs make as much noise as coolers do. biggrin.gif
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Originally Posted by doyll View Post

Nicely done! thumb.gif

A few questions:
  • What was the fan speed / noise level in each test?
  • What was the air temp going into cooler? Room temp and temp of air in front of cooler in the case are not the same.. and often change when coolers are changed. (2nd link in sig has a cheap way to monitor cooler intake temp)
  • Is R1 quieter under load than I30 was?

The last "midrange cooling" coolers I ran were Ultra-120A, Zaward Vapor 120, AXP-100 and HR-02 Macho. All are quite good but R1 Ultimate, Cogage Arrow, Silver Arrow SB-E, Silver Arrow IB-E, and PH-TC14PE cool better. The biggest difference is how quiet the top coolers are. I can hardly hear them. Even when CPU is running 100% HDDs make as much noise as coolers do. biggrin.gif

Thanks smile.gif

Your questions: The coolers were controlled under PWM by the motherboard socket at the Asus setting 'standard' in the BIOS which IIRC maxes the fan out at 100% @ 70c, I should have used HWINFO and looked at the RPM, and/or forced both coolers to 100% for testing. 20/20 hindsight and all that. redface.gif

-I don't know what the temps were going into the cooler, I do know that testing with my i30 over the last year with various configurations the one I had was the coolest overall for that cooler. I realise that the setup I had was arranged for the Arctic I30 and my GPU specifically, I'm actually running a different configuration now.




No bottom intake, TY140 on the top front and a Fractal R2 silent on the side. I know this has improved CPU temps but I will run the tests again on this config and add them in to the OP when I have time. Very good point.

-Actually the I30 is quieter, it was barely audible over my case fans the f12 is only 1350 rpm and gives off a low hum rather like the Gentle typhoon, when its on the heatsink I'm afraid I don't have any sound testing equipment to do a reading just my (quite large) ears. You can't hear it over the case fans even when they're turned halfway down. It is tested in reviews I have read as being one of the quietest coolers AFAIK so there's no shame in that for the R1 which is quiet enough for me under load. thumb.gif
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You may be able to set the minimum & maximum heat to rpm differently and get same temps with lower speed.

I have my sig rig setup 20c@20%rpm and 65c@100%rpm. System never go above 50c@1100rpm with stock voltage and 23c cooler intatke temp / 21.4c room temp(3.4Ghz@1.248v). That's 99.2-100% all cors. It's basically the same with all my twin tower coolers.
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Originally Posted by doyll View Post

You may be able to set the minimum & maximum heat to rpm differently and get same temps with lower speed.

I have my sig rig setup 20c@20%rpm and 65c@100%rpm. System never go above 50c@1100rpm with stock voltage and 23c cooler intatke temp / 21.4c room temp(3.4Ghz@1.248v). That's 99.2-100% all cors. It's basically the same with all my twin tower coolers.


Very nice!

I fold quite a bit and at the moment have a custom CPU fan profile in BIOS for 100% at 60c, I'm sure I can get it quieter it just takes me a while to play with the settings and test over time. I gave up on using Asus AI suite to control pwm because of the crazy temp and voltage warnings its gives. 'Motherboard temperature 156c' and +12v at -18v rolleyes.gif Not to mention the event viewer errors which get on my wick tongue.gif It wasn't exactly easy to uninstall completely either.

I also heard that Speedfan is no good (?) so I didn't even bother trying with it.

Anyway the R1 Ultimate isn't to loud at all under normal usage and of course you can set it silent something like 100% at 80c, no normal usage load is going to approach IBT or Prime, only programs I use that get anywhere near are Handbrake and Folding.
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I often use Handbrake to stress CPUs. Run 2 session at same time and CPU is constant 100% tongue.gif
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Never considered doubling up on Handbrake as a stress test, nice tip:)
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Can get some work done and test at same time. thumb.gif
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