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Hi Guys,

I'm moving an "older" PC to a new case and wanna make a few upgrades and downgrades.
I don't know If I should stay with the PSU I have right now.
Be quiet BQT P9 Pro 850W

The parts:

Sabertooth Z77 *new*
16GB 4x4GB ram
Intel Core i5-2500K (not OC)
Dark Rock pro 3 *new*
EVGA GTX580 3GB *downgrade form sli* (will be upgraded to a 760 as soon as the 800er series is out)

5x HDD 1-3TB
1x SSD *new*

3x silent wings 2 120mm
3x silent wings 2 140mm


I don't know how much watts this setup needs or which PSU to get.
If you could help me with the wattage I need and how "big" the PSU should be I'll search for a nice PSU in the PSU index thread by shilka

thanks very much,
have a tek day!

Chronist
post #2 of 9
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Originally Posted by Chronist View Post

Hi Guys,

I'm moving an "older" PC to a new case and wanna make a few upgrades and downgrades.
I don't know If I should stay with the PSU I have right now.
Be quiet BQT P9 Pro 850W

The parts:

Sabertooth Z77 *new*
16GB 4x4GB ram
Intel Core i5-2500K (not OC)
Dark Rock pro 3 *new*
EVGA GTX580 3GB *downgrade form sli* (will be upgraded to a 760 as soon as the 800er series is out)

5x HDD 1-3TB
1x SSD *new*

3x silent wings 2 120mm
3x silent wings 2 140mm


I don't know how much watts this setup needs or which PSU to get.
If you could help me with the wattage I need and how "big" the PSU should be I'll search for a nice PSU in the PSU index thread by shilka

thanks very much,
have a tek day!

Chronist

 

That PSU is  a keeper. It is major overkill; your power consumption while gaming won't go any higher than about 450W.

 

Is the GTX 760 really an upgrade from the GTX 580? The GTX 770 is a slightly faster GTX 680.

 

 

Edit: I was wrong. I was going by two 760s in SLI for some reason. So, the power consumption while gaming would peak at around 300-325W.


Edited by TwoCables - 4/5/14 at 10:29am
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post #3 of 9
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That PSU is  a keeper. It is major overkill; your power consumption while gaming won't go any higher than about 450W.

Is the GTX 760 really an upgrade from the GTX 580? The GTX 770 is a slightly faster GTX 680.

the 760 is give or take 5 fps in some cases but runs cooler

is it really only about 450W? that seems a bit low.but I have no idea so thanks wink.gif
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the 760 is give or take 5 fps in some cases but runs cooler

is it really only about 450W? that seems a bit low.but I have no idea so thanks wink.gif

 

It would be a lot lower than that. I was going by two 760s in SLI. I apologize for that.

 

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/geforce_gtx_760_sli_review,4.html

 

With ONE GTX 760 under full load (not two.... what a brainfart that was), their PSU pulled 280W from the wall outlet. Their CPU was idling, so I have to add up to 95W for your CPU under full load. That makes the PSU pulling 375W from the wall outlet. This means that if your PSU were 90% efficient while pulling 375W from the wall, then your computer would be pulling 337W from the PSU. This means that your gaming power consumption will peak at around 300-325W.

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post #5 of 9
Yup. 450W-500W would do it.
The 580 is power hungry but it takes ~250W tops iirc on furmark loads. Usually should be ~200W.
760 will take about ~180W tops.
Factor that to
2500K - ~80W
Board - 30W (Overestimating here)
Ram - Negligible (Say 20W to be safe)
HDD - 20W on startup, nearer to 10W at load.
SSD - 5W tops.
Fans - 5W tops.
Used to mine my R9 290 on a Superflower 500W as stated in my Sig rig with a LGA2011 8 Core Xeon.
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post #6 of 9
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It would be a lot lower than that. I was going by two 760s in SLI. I apologize for that.

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/geforce_gtx_760_sli_review,4.html

With ONE GTX 760 under full load (not two.... what a brainfart that was), their PSU pulled 280W from the wall outlet. Their CPU was idling, so I have to add up to 95W for your CPU under full load. That makes the PSU pulling 375W from the wall outlet. This means that if your PSU were 90% efficient while pulling 375W from the wall, then your computer would be pulling 337W from the PSU. This means that your gaming power consumption will peak at around 300-325W.

Wow I wouldn't have thought that.
what about the HDDs, running HDD's consum around 7-20 W depending on type right?
So it would add up to around 400W while gaming

// I just noticed I have a wattage counter laying around, I'll test how much the current set up draws smile.gif
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Wow I wouldn't have thought that.
what about the HDDs, running HDD's consum around 7-20 W depending on type right?
So it would add up to around 400W while gaming

// I just noticed I have a wattage counter laying around, I'll test how much the current set up draws smile.gif

 

No. A hard drive is not going to consume its maximum potential while gaming - hard drives are mostly idling while gaming. You'd have to be using special software to stress the hard drive very hard in order to get it to draw its maximum potential power consumption. So no, 300-325W. The test system they used is a full system.

 

Components and parts aren't going to draw their full power draw unless they are completely maxed out.

 

Multiply any reading you get by .90 to estimate 90% efficiency.

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post #8 of 9
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Okay thank you guys, I guess I'll go for a ST55F-G Strider Gold Series 550 Watt:or similar. ( I have one of those in my main Rig. and might put a second 760 in.)
On the other hand It's a bit expensive... hmm I'll have a look at other PSU around 500w.

Thanks very much guys smile.gif
post #9 of 9

450W Rosewill CAPSTONE Series

 

450W SeaSonic G Series

 

450W XFX Pro Series Core Edition

 

http://www.overclock.net/t/183810/faq-recommended-power-supplies

 

;)

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Corsair HX650 (Bronze, ordered on 12-12-2009) CM 690 Intellimouse Optical (1.1A) 1000Hz polling rate Basic, but premium round 
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