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post #1 of 33
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Ok I recently moved into a new apartment. The first night I had a issue with my surge protectors giving me a "building wiring fault" error. So I plugged in my ups battery backup and that to went off saying wiring fault. So I calles the land lord and he sent a certified electrition. The electrician told me none of the outlets are grounded and he had to bond them all. That fixed the ground fault errors for the ups and surge protectors.

Well last night I plugged in a vacuum and one of the outlets sparked and the breaker shut down the electricity to the house. So the electrician came over today and took apart the socket and some of wire inside was basically burnt up etc. Well he rewired it and fixed it. I asked if plugging my ups and computer into that was going to cause any issues and he didnt really give me a answer. All he said was this building is using cloth wire and its very old technology in terms or modern day wiring.

So my question is what do I do about my pc? I have a ups battery backup with avr. Will this protect me? What would you do in this situation? Im looking for some insight on this matter. Thanks.
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post #2 of 33
Pushing new wire is going to be quite a challenge. I would see what the landlord says about having new wires pushed to outlets, or possibly just one or 2 for the specific circumstances ( badass PC ).
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Do you think the old wiring will be ok? I have a ups with voltage regulation and line topolgy. I am more worried about my pc then the outlet.
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post #4 of 33
Well, you can only cut the wire in the wall back so many times. You also runt he risk of something called fire.

It can overheat your house and make it un-usable.

I would be more worried about you leading to peoples deaths.
post #5 of 33
When they say on the news houses are burning down, it is not from appliances but bad wireing.

Sometimes it can be an appliance or somebody put a piece of cloth over an electric heater, but most of the time it's bad wireing (but they don't tell that on the news...)

I work on the grid here in Belgium and we use thermal IR camera's to search for bad connections...

Bad connections will work, until you start to draw amps... those create little sparks. Those sparks leave a residu on the copper cables called graphite (carbon stuff which act as a resistor) --> That resistor has to be overcome by pulling MORE amps and the circle is complete. More sparks, etc until FIRE!

It's nothing you should skip so easy... You might get hurd or worser and so are others in that building. If the Land Lord does not want to do anything, search for a company that controls the electric stuff (I don't know the English word for it...) --> But they can say it's unsafe and the owner MUST change the electrical stuff (over here "Vinçotte" is a famous one...)
   
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post #6 of 33
I think he would be looking for something along the lines of a fire safety inspector. You can simply call them and report than your outlets keep going up in smoke and that you feel unsafe.

They will take care of the rest, even if it puts you out on the street, You'll be safer.
post #7 of 33
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I know all the fire guys that do that. I guess I didnt think it was that bad small sparks. Apparently I was wro. . I have been to a few fires that the socket started the wall on fire. I have the right equipement in my place to put it out. But I really dont want that to happen. Im kind of annoyed right now with this whole situation.

The electrician said the socket sparked and popped because he nicked the wire when he was grounding it (bonding) he showed me thebwire and it was all burnt and black. So idk at this point.
Edited by ChrisB17 - 4/6/14 at 10:21am
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post #8 of 33
I'm not an electrician, but when I play with electrical wires, I make sure they are not hot.

In my little bit of experience, this potential burning of wire means I have to cut it back. Cutting it back decreases the time before the wire needs to be replaced, or spliced into.

If I were you I would snap some pictures of your outlets and the wire that is run to them ( after turning the breaker off and then opening the outlet ), and share them with someone far more knowledgeable than I on the matter of the wiring of your home. Or you can have them come and actually look at it.

I can simply only speak to voice my concern for the well-being of your dwelling and you and your family ( if any ).
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I will talk to one of the guys at the fire station who is a fire marshal / inspector. My moms bf is also a licensed contractor so I will see what he says.
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post #10 of 33
sweet, keep us updated. we like to see these things go from problem to resolution, helps create guidelines to avoid failure for those who come looking for answers!
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