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Alright so here's the skinny, for those of you that haven't already been helping me out in the "General" forum.  I'll be keeping this OP in spoilers to help keep down on the visual clutter. Budget is probably $700 max.

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My mom's desktop died (my old AMD build) and since she needs it for editing and such I need to either build her a new one from scratch or RMA my CPU in my sig rig since it's also having some issues (voltage problems) and let her have this one (minus the PSU, Fans, Case, and the new 580 Classified I have as well as the peripherals). I've chosen the latter option since she isn't in as desperate need for the power as I am; and  I was planning on upgrading anyways (next year). Unfortunately this means I'm having to upgrade ahead of schedule. 

 

 

Information on me and some of my past experiences in PC Architecture (Click to show)
I'm used to AMD (older generations such as Athlon X2 64's like the one that just died in my mom's machine) and Sandy Bridge. I'm looking for no less than a quad core preferably something like an i7. I need it to run relatively cool since the room it'll be in has no shade anymore (storm last year took out all of the surrounding trees). I will be overclocking it of course. I've become accustomed to at least an i5 so won't settle for anything that doesn't at least achieve that performance wise.

 

What the PC will be used for (Click to show)

I'll be using this new PC for Photo and Video Editing and Encoding. Gaming such as a HEAVILY modded Skyrim with ENB as well as Assassin's Creed, Batman Arkham Asylum, Mass Effect Series, Battlefeld 3, and some more intensive games (I'll probably also be playing League of Legends and Neverwinter Online so I'll need a good NIC). I'll also be using this as a HTPC whenever I'm just chilling out.

As much as I don't want to upgrade yet I should be able to spend $600 (maybe $700 if I get a new cooler as well). I was planning on getting a Raza or similar as well as a BD Writer when I upgraded next but I think that's almost definitely out of the question for right now. 

 

Which Architecture? (Click to show)

I'm not opposed to one of the newer AMD's but as I said it needs to keep pretty cool so it's pretty much an Intel game. I have an older P67 (ASUS P8P67 Pro) board that should still work (haven't tested yet) if I were to stay with the 1155 socket so I might be able to keep my Sabertooth board and give my mom the P67. The only problem I see with that is obviously for instance Newegg only sells the 2600k or higher and it hasn't dropped in price any at all, despite it being 3 years old. I'm guessing it's because there hasn't been any significant improvements and the newer ones have a fair few bugs.  So far in the motherboard game I've only had one motherboard ever with a sterling record (no DoA, no RMAs after a few months of use, etc.) and it's still going strong it's just the cpu that took a dump this time... It's my current Sabertooth Z77 board if you couldn't tell lol. I've heard there might be some issues with the RoG and Sabertooth Z87 boards but wanted to open for input from a larger sampling.

 

 

Core Components in need of replacing and info on case thermals (Click to show)

CPU: Intel Core i5 2500k

Motherboard: ASUS Sabertooth Z77

RAM: G.Skill Sniper Low Voltage DDR3 1600 MHZ 1.35v (I'll be needing to get an 8GB kit at the least for mom since she's using DDR2 atm though it looks like she'll be paying for that at least. I was hoping to get her a 16GB kit but the prices aren't near as good as the $80-90 I paid for my Snipers)

GPU: EVGA GTX 780 Classified (will be kept)

PSU: Cooler Master Silent Pro Hybrid 1050W (will be kept)

Disc Drive: ASUS DRW-24B1ST (might have to get something new since I think the one my mom is currently using is IDE)

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master TPC 812 (I'll be wanting something less cumbersome that doesn't strain the board so much, it's plain annoying to get on. I'm thinking maybe an all in one loop since a loop is a pipedream?)

Fans: 5x Cooler Master Excaliber, 5x Cooler Master Turbine Master (will all be kept and I'll probably have to buy my mom some new ones if the ones in my old HAF 932 aren't enough)

Case: Cooler Master Storm Trooper (I'll be keeping this one and mom will get the HAF 932 if it fits under her desk)

 


Edited by phazer11 - 4/7/14 at 11:23am
     
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post #2 of 9
To clarify, and add a tl;dr of what he needs wants, here's a list below

i7 Processor (very likely an i7-4770K)
Quality Z87 motherboard (for overclocking)
16GB of RAM, or 8GB of RAM depending. 16GB is preferred.
Blu-ray disc drive, burner if possible.
A good CPU cooler, that can handle a good overclock of a i7-4770K. One that doesn't stress the board, and is easy to take on and off. He's thinking maybe a AIO cooler.
my build from the previous thread (Click to show)
CPU($320) - Intel Core i7-4770K Quad-Core
http://www.amazon.com/Intel-i7-4770K-Quad-Core-Processor-BX80646I74770K/dp/B00CO8TBQ0

Optical($60 with promo code EMCPFPF88) - Pioneer 16X BD-R 2X BD-RE 16X DVD+R 12X BD-ROM 4MB Cache
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827129075

Cooler($70) - Noctua NH-U14S
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835608041

Motherboard+RAM($258) - GIGABYTE GA-Z87X-HD3 + Crucial Ballistix Tactical 16GB (2 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 1866
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1608253

Total Price - $707.50, everything has free shipping. Rebates not included(if any).

with slightly cheaper RAM.

Motherboard+RAM($250) - GIGABYTE GA-Z87X-HD3 + CORSAIR Vengeance Pro 16GB (2 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 1866
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1608344

Total Price(with changes) - $700 everything has free shipping. Rebates not included(if any).

Edited by Alanim - 4/6/14 at 11:46am
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post #3 of 9
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Yeah... something like that basically. To help you with the minutia the I'd really appreciate it if someone could help me with info on the architectures, their strengths and drawbacks,etc.

 

I just don't have as much time as I did a few weeks ago to do the research I need to make an informed decision, and this whole mess has been quite frustrating. Especially since I'm only able to get so many of my projects I need to get done; done on my laptop. It's simply not spread out enough (and in some rare cases powerful enough) to do some of the things I need to do and in a decent timeframe. That and my desktop is my gaming machine and HTPC for winding down. 

 

The cooler and drive can probably be nixed for now, I might be able to make do with say a Hyper 212 Evo, for the time being since ultimately I do want a Raza or similar.


Edited by phazer11 - 4/6/14 at 1:04pm
     
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Just saw Jab-tech was going out, anyone tell if there's any decent watercooling parts for an amatuer? If I can get a decent loop out of it I'd be willing to trv the jump to $800 or so I suppose.

     
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Quote:
Originally Posted by phazer11 View Post

Just saw Jab-tech was going out, anyone tell if there's any decent watercooling parts for an amatuer? If I can get a decent loop out of it I'd be willing to trv the jump to $800 or so I suppose.
You don't want a rasa thats old... The Raystorm is where XSPC shines. Performance-PCs.com is great OCN55 gets you 5.55% off...
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It doesn't have to be a Rasa I was just asking if there were any parts worth getting from there that might make me getting a loop possible (since the parts are 50% off and I'm on a budget).

Here take a look.

Link


Edited by phazer11 - 4/6/14 at 9:30pm
     
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Not really anything important, but currently the i5-4670K is on sale at amazon for $190 which is a pretty great price for it. If you want something to do with that. Today only.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1479817/amazon-intel-i5-4670k-189-99

or

http://www.amazon.com/Intel-i5-4670K-Quad-Core-Desktop-Processor/dp/B00CO8TBOW/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1396855872&sr=1-1&keywords=4670k
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That is a great deal, I just don't know though. Last time I skipped out on an i7 when I built my Sandy Bridge rig and I always regretted it. On the other hand, this i5 deal would let me get a watercooling loop...

Alright now back to motherboards and which cpu architecture I should go with Sandy, Ivy, or Haswell, I guess Ivy is still a contender but I haven't heard many good things about its OC potential or in general (unless it's Ivy Bridge - E).


Edited by phazer11 - 4/7/14 at 9:01am
     
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Before I go to bed and forget I wanted to mention that I've been checking things out $ wise and it turns out I have nearly $200 credit at Best Buy so anything that can be got through there (and they'll price match Amazon, Newegg, etc according to their low price guaranty, and from experience) so anything that can be purchased from them (store or otherwise; no merchants) would be great. I'm thinking the processor maybe. Though I haven't seen any say LGA 2011 processors on their site.

 

On that note, anyone able to help me out with the differences between Sandy, Ivy, Ivy-E and Haswell? I have experience with Sandy and have a few friends with normal Ivy Bridge processors but I hear they don't OC as well as Sandy. I know the Ivy Bridge E class is the enthusiast class but other than their higher wattages and such haven't had the time to look into them (as with the rest of them like Haswell).

     
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