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I guess I wasn't 100% honest, silent computing isn't my only aim, I'd also like to try out water cooling. I've built half a dozen air cooled computers over the years, and I'm looking to try something a little different to see how I like it. I use my computer for gaming, some coding, and media. I don't participate in any distributed computing initiatives though, so as you've pointed out my CPU isn't really getting pushed all that much. I'd still love to get all those tiny little noisy fans out of my case though, and water cooling seems like the best way to do it. I realize it's probably going to be expensive, but I'll analyze the cost / benefit aspect after I have a better idea of what I'm going to spend. So far, with the parts I've chosen, water cooling isn't outside the realm of possibility for me. I also don't think that I've selected cheap parts that won't scale over time. For the most part I'm selecting parts that I believe will keep the door open for things like overclocking or distributed computing projects, so even though it's not my current goal to OC, I believe it's a possibility down the road, with the parts I'm considering.

I can totally understand where you're coming from here. Just keep in mind some of the cheaper parts can get the job done just as well. For example I had a dedicated folding rig that ran an overclocked 7970 24/7 under full load with an XSPC RX360 rad and 3 Gentle Typhoon AP-15's running at about 60%. My temps never went over 50C and it was quiet enough for me to sleep in the same room while it was running but it was still a little bit overkill.
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The radiators you linked to are not quite as you have described.

The V3 RX series are much improved over the V2.

Martin hasn't tested the V3's yet - so which is better between the Alphacool rads and the RX V3s is currently unknown.

I can tell you that the XSPC radiators have excellent quality control, which is more than can be said of Alphacool.

Also - unless you go push / pull with high static pressure fans at +1500rpm, you will see no real world difference in performance between the top 5 radiators.

I'm pretty sure that I read on this forum that XSPC makes a very good radiator, but since the prices are fairly comparable and the alphacool's beat out XSPC in the past, I'm okay going with AC instead. I'm still accepting input on parts though, so thank you.
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Yeah, the Lamptron CW611 is self cpntained and works independently of the OS.
You don't even need an OS running, or installed to use the CW611.

I do use Linux Mint and Ubuntu as well. And that is in fact one of the reasons I wouldn't buy an Aquaero controller.

If you get the CW611, I recommend the AP-45 Gentle Typhoon fans with it.
The only glitch is that the Lamptron thinks the fans are stopped when they go below 1000 rpm. But not a big issue for me.
And you can control your pump, and dim your LEDs with it too.
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Yeah, the Lamptron CW611 is self cpntained and works independently of the OS.
You don't even need an OS running, or installed to use the CW611.

I do use Linux Mint and Ubuntu as well. And that is in fact one of the reasons I wouldn't buy an Aquaero controller.

If you get the CW611, I recommend the AP-45 Gentle Typhoon fans with it.
The only glitch is that the Lamptron thinks the fans are stopped when they go below 1000 rpm. But not a big issue for me.
And you can control your pump, and dim your LEDs with it too.

yeah this is all correct. It might be kinda sweet to have some LEDs change with the temperature... never thought of that :-p

any clue why the AP-45s are shut off below 1000RPMs? Never hear this before, but glad I didnt get the 45s now :-p
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Yeah, the Lamptron CW611 is self cpntained and works independently of the OS.
You don't even need an OS running, or installed to use the CW611.

I do use Linux Mint and Ubuntu as well. And that is in fact one of the reasons I wouldn't buy an Aquaero controller.

If you get the CW611, I recommend the AP-45 Gentle Typhoon fans with it.
The only glitch is that the Lamptron thinks the fans are stopped when they go below 1000 rpm. But not a big issue for me.
And you can control your pump, and dim your LEDs with it too.
I don't see AP-45 on their website:

http://www.scytheus.com/product/gentle-typhoon-120mm-high-rpm/
D1225C12B7AP-29 (3,000 rpm) / D1225C12B9AP-30 (4,250 rpm) / D1225C12BBAP-31 (5,400 rpm)

http://www.scytheus.com/product/gentle-typhoon-120mm/
D1225C12B1AP-11 (500 rpm) / D1225C12B2AP-12 (800 rpm) / D1225C12B3AP-13 (1,150 rpm) / D1225C12B4AP-14 (1,450 rpm) / D1225C12B5AP-15 (1,850 rpm)

Do you have a link to what you're referring to?
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and for a fan controller that can control anything and everything... Lamptron CW611... 36W per channel (can handle 1 Pump per channel, or like 6 fans) and it has 6 channels... automated monitoring and great customer support...

6 fans???
Lol
I run 20 fans per channel on my CW.
And i would not be scared of running 24 fans on it, but that's about maxing it out.
And I'm talking about the AP-45 fans, running about 1.5W each.
Remember, tge Lamptron doesn't care about stating current, only running current is relevent there.

On my former Lamptron Touch, I could also run 20 fans per channel, and that was rated only 30W per channel.
But it dies. Apparently, you can't run 40W of fans of 30W channel....go figure that one out! rolleyes.gif
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I don't see AP-45 on their website:

http://www.scytheus.com/product/gentle-typhoon-120mm-high-rpm/
D1225C12B7AP-29 (3,000 rpm) / D1225C12B9AP-30 (4,250 rpm) / D1225C12BBAP-31 (5,400 rpm)

http://www.scytheus.com/product/gentle-typhoon-120mm/
D1225C12B1AP-11 (500 rpm) / D1225C12B2AP-12 (800 rpm) / D1225C12B3AP-13 (1,150 rpm) / D1225C12B4AP-14 (1,450 rpm) / D1225C12B5AP-15 (1,850 rpm)

Do you have a link to what you're referring to?

The Gentle Typhoon is made by Nidec. Scythe only distributes it for Nidec in the USA, until recently. But the AP-45 was never distributed by Scythe in the first place so they are hard to find.
I know two sources for the AP-45. One of them just dried up, as I bought the last ones from them.
The other one is in Canada here:
http://www.dazmode.com/store/product/scythe_gentle_typhoon_2150rpm_69cfm_30db_fan/
Edited by PepeLapiu - 4/6/14 at 3:39pm
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6 fans???
Lol
I run 20 fans per channel on my CW.
And i would not be scared of running 24 fans on it, but that's about maxing it out.
And I'm talking about the AP-45 fans, running about 1.5W each.
Remember, tge Lamptron doesn't care about stating current, only running current is relevent there.

On my former Lamptron Touch, I could also run 20 fans per channel, and that was rated only 30W per channel.
But it dies. Apparently, you can't run 40W of fans of 30W channel....go figure that one out! rolleyes.gif

I only said 6 as a conservative estimate :-p I have seen some fans 'claim' 5W.

but 20 fans??? how? why?? lol
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I only said 6 as a conservative estimate :-p I have seen some fans 'claim' 5W.

but 20 fans??? how? why?? lol

Cuz I have 38 fans in my current build, including 120.15 of raddage all in push/pull.
You might ask why 38 fans?
Cuz I have no room for the 39th one...... biggrin.gif
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The Gentle Typhoon is made by Nidec. Scythe only distributes it for Nidec in the USA, until recently. But the AP-45 was never distributed by Scythe in the first place so they are hard to find.
I know two sources for the AP-45. One of them just dried up, as I bought the last ones from them.
The other one is in Canada here:
http://www.dazmode.com/store/product/scythe_gentle_typhoon_2150rpm_69cfm_30db_fan/

Considering my fan speed will hover closer to 1000 rpms than 2000 rpms, is there any reason (other than the ability to scale in the future) to go with the AP-45s? If I were to go with the AP-14s for instance, wouldn't I be able to avoid the controller bug that you mentioned (where the controller believes the fans are shut off), and maybe have fans that are more aligned with my use case?
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