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I haven't placed my order yet, so I don't want to say wink.gif

I want to make sure I understand though. You're saying that it's not necessarily true that I'll just set the D5 to "5" and then configure the controller?

He is saying not to bother with controlling the pump with the controller, just use the dial on the pump.
I do somewhat agree with that. But the heat dump of the pump's controller is a good point I think.

The pump undervolts the 12V power. That means if it wants 8V speed, it will burn away 4V, turning it into heat, which will be dumped into your loop.
But if you use the CW, the undervolting is done in the controller, not in the pump. So no getting the water warmer this way.

And it's a mystery wrapped in an enigma to me, but the CW can undervolt without creating any significant heat.
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Originally Posted by PepeLapiu View Post

He is saying not to bother with controlling the pump with the controller, just use the dial on the pump.
I do somewhat agree with that. But the heat dump of the pump's controller is a good point I think.

The pump undervolts the 12V power. That means if it wants 8V speed, it will burn away 4V, turning it into heat, which will be dumped into your loop.
But if you use the CW, the undervolting is done in the controller, not in the pump. So no getting the water warmer this way.

And it's a mystery wrapped in an enigma to me, but the CW can undervolt without creating any significant heat.

Understood. I'm taking measurements in the case now, I may actually opt for two 240's, one top mounted and one front mounted. Do the front in push / pull and the top in either push or pull. I have 2.75 inches of clearance between the top of my case and the motherboard though... so perhaps a thicker radiator (like the UT60 that I'm looking at) is a possibility in that position.
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At 2.75 inches I have about 70 mm of space to work with in the top of my case, before things start covering the motherboard. The UT60 is 60mm and the GT's at 1 inch are about 25.4 mm, so I have about 15mm (3/5 inches) of coverage on my motherboard... this doesn't seem viable does it?
post #54 of 190
You'll prolly end up somewhere around 3.5 for the pump..... It does not need to be at full blast

as far as room goes, what needs to be measured is the roof point down 1.5cm (average) below the first set of mobo posts. thats about where your ram slots sit....

here, check this vid out, tom does a good job of explaining what will fit in this case...

skip to 25min for just the top rad stuffs

http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/cases_cooling/fractal_arc_xl_video_review/1
Edited by badtaylorx - 4/7/14 at 1:27pm
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Oh cool, I was thinking of going with the R2 XL, but I think they're pretty similar.. I have the R2 XL already, so I can go take a look at it to see if it has the same offsets.
post #56 of 190
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Does anyone know what case hes talking about here?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=YaOwyVuC_F8#t=2214
post #57 of 190
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Does anyone know what case hes talking about here?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=YaOwyVuC_F8#t=2214


Fractal Arc XL

there's only one version i think


and if you think it's going to be that close, you could always get a rad thats just a lil thinner like this (54mm) offering from Koolance that just came out (most other rads have been out for 4years+)

http://koolance.com/hx-240xc-radiator-2-fan-120mm-30-fpi-copper

or even a 45mm thick rad like this alphacool

http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=59_457_667_1075&products_id=32764
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post #58 of 190
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Fractal Arc XL

there's only one version i think


and if you think it's going to be that close, you could always get a rad thats just a lil thinner like this (54mm) offering from Koolance that just came out (most other rads have been out for 4years+)

http://koolance.com/hx-240xc-radiator-2-fan-120mm-30-fpi-copper

or even a 45mm thick rad like this alphacool

http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=59_457_667_1075&products_id=32764

No, I meant the case he was saying that would come out on the 23rd of that month. I found it in the comments though, he was talking about the corsair 750D, also a really nice looking option.
post #59 of 190
really nice, especially for watercooling!!!

i just finished tossing together a living room gamer In a 350D. it was just supposed to be left over stuff, but i got stupid and watercooled it thumb.gif



now this is why i reccomended to you to go with two 240s instead of 240 and 120, it just didnt add enough cooling for the pita it was to mount!!!





nifty lil pump that pumps waaaay more than youd think, buy kinda noisy above 60%

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post #60 of 190
I would go with push/pull both on top and up front.
A XT45 in p/p or a ST30 in p/p will both outperform a UT60 in push or pull.
Ad of course, if you have less than 80mm space, than a ST30 in push or pull is all you'd be able to fit.

And did I mention the Koolance bracket? If you want to slap in a 360, or 480 without hacking out your case.
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