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Are these guys for real? The money they spent to keep XP alive could have rather been spent on just upgrading their systems ANYWAY? Now thay have to pay to keep XP alive and then STILL pay later to upgrade? Sometimes you wonder who rules the top of these companies and governments. Techtards and monkeys!

I'm guessing you have absolutely zero experience in large or legacy systems? rolleyes.gif
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Granted I rarely pay over $100 for OEM versions, but most users do in fact buy the quite expensive full version, and companies often buy the most expensive premium versions on top of that. I can't believe I'm saying this, but maybe those linux guys have a point. Windows is really a rip-off when you "buy it" (actually leasing it I think), then after a few years it's no good anymore. Is that enough to make me use linux? Not yet, but Steam OS looks better every day.

The fact that Microsoft allowed sales of XP as late as 2010 is pretty alarming.







Thanks duckie for the link to these smile.gif
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Don't worry about the governments paying to keep xp updated, think about all the governments who still use XP but won't recieve the updates, and won't upgrade either tongue.gif
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Don't worry about the governments paying to keep xp updated, think about all the governments who still use XP but won't recieve the updates, and won't upgrade either tongue.gif

A scary world we live in.

My school still have Core 2 era Pentium Duals. Those things took forever to log in, even though they are running Win 7 I think.
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Don't worry about the governments paying to keep xp updated, think about all the governments who still use XP but won't recieve the updates, and won't upgrade either tongue.gif

A scary world we live in.

My school still have Core 2 era Pentium Duals. Those things took forever to log in, even though they are running Win 7 I think.

I consider that a brand new machine...I typically find my self working with old Pentium 4 machines. i jump for joy if I get a C2D CPU.
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I consider that a brand new machine...I typically find my self working with old Pentium 4 machines. i jump for joy if I get a C2D CPU.

Slap a little Lubuntu on there and it would fly...oh wait...biggrin.gif I'm probably the worst person ever as when I go to most public computer places I whip out a Linux USB and reboot into that. Makes dealing with the ancient computers bearable.

I just can't imagine what good a program/computer that is tied to WIN2K is (per Duckie's IIRC mention). Seriously, I would worry about the accuracy of accounting software that probably predates SOX. That just sounds like a liability and plain stupid to me. As an accountant that's almost as bad as the people who think quickbooks (non-GAAP compliant) is good to use for a public company.
     
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I consider that a brand new machine...I typically find my self working with old Pentium 4 machines. i jump for joy if I get a C2D CPU.

Slap a little Lubuntu on there and it would fly...oh wait...biggrin.gif I'm probably the worst person ever as when I go to most public computer places I whip out a Linux USB and reboot into that. Makes dealing with the ancient computers bearable.

I just can't imagine what good a program/computer that is tied to WIN2K is (per Duckie's IIRC mention). Seriously, I would worry about the accuracy of accounting software that probably predates SOX. That just sounds like a liability and plain stupid to me. As an accountant that's almost as bad as the people who think quickbooks (non-GAAP compliant) is good to use for a public company.

That accounting junk is really just some reporting that has tie ins to some federal database and a few local ones. Aside from that I don't even know much about it. It's been offered to replace it as it should not be to hard to make something. However, the management over there says it is working fine and doesn't want to pay for the development...even though the support of it is probably costing them more. rolleyes.gif
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That accounting junk is really just some reporting that has tie ins to some federal database and a few local ones. Aside from that I don't even know much about it. It's been offered to replace it as it should not be to hard to make something. However, the management over there says it is working fine and doesn't want to pay for the development...even though the support of it is probably costing them more. rolleyes.gif
Accounting rules and laws change over time though...
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I can guarantee you that some of the systems currently running on XP where forced on to XP from Windows NT or maybe even MS-DOS. Now try to get those systems to run on W7 or W8....

Or try to get buy-in for the migration for a ten or thirty technology heads. Get them all to agree on every single aspect of the migration..... and have no upper management supporting you or covering your back. Who wants that job?

Or try testing an application for compatibility.... except that the company who sold it is long gone, no one has any documentation, there is no installer, and it's mission critical. Fun stuff!
Windows lifecycle fact sheet
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/lifecycle

Looking on a machine right now with that issue...
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Are these guys for real? The money they spent to keep XP alive could have rather been spent on just upgrading their systems ANYWAY? Now thay have to pay to keep XP alive and then STILL pay later to upgrade? Sometimes you wonder who rules the top of these companies and governments. Techtards and monkeys!

Trust me you'd be surprised...
 
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Are these guys for real? The money they spent to keep XP alive could have rather been spent on just upgrading their systems ANYWAY? Now thay have to pay to keep XP alive and then STILL pay later to upgrade? Sometimes you wonder who rules the top of these companies and governments. Techtards and monkeys!

That's implying that it cost the same or more to keep xp alive than to upgrade all their hardware and port over or have to develop all new software to replace their old software. Even right now its probably still cheaper to pay microsoft a few million a year than to revamp their entire hardware infrastructure.

Businesses are businesses. All they care about is dollar signs and present day profit.
Edited by orlfman - 4/8/14 at 8:41am
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