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hi guys im not sure if this should be here or in the case mods section but ive been writing ideas down and this one idea that i thgink most people would like but i need your opinion

if i was to build an external rad box to hold a rad pump and res that was external to the pc what pump would you say is needed.
would you say a d5 or a ek dcc or dcp pump and would you say a tube res would look 10x better than a bay res esp for keeping size down.

i am more leaning to the d5 as this is one if not the most powerful to move water at a medium distance.


you guys may think im crazy and i think i am to but i think this can work, after all were ocn and there's nothing we wont try thumb.gif
Edited by richie_2010 - 4/6/14 at 7:42am
post #2 of 9
It mostly depends on how restrictive your loop is. What blocks are you running, How many sharp bends you have, What tube diameter, length of tubing, etc...

I did this once... using a D5, with a single 360 rad (Black Ice). Had the res in the box also.

Front

Inside top view

external rear view


I was running a Core 2 Duo 2160 with an EK block, ram blocks, Chipset blocks, and Radeon 3870x2 with an EK block. It kept it cool. I would HIGHLY recommened some Quick Disconnects between your rad box, and your CPU.
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post #3 of 9
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i was thinking of worst case scenario which would be cpu ram mb and gpu but if i was to get the ball rolling it would be gpu and cpu for me only.

my main idea was a rad box with a mini itx case, so people can build a small gaming pc and have the wcooling seperate.
qdc came straight into my head utilising them from the rad box and also the pc case side

if i was to get both the rad box and the case made would you say 2 120mm intake fans would suffice and have open sections for exhaust or would you say try and incorporate a exhaust aswell.
post #4 of 9
Airflow (fans) needed would depend on what rads you are using, and how the box it setup. If you run a 240, then 2x 120 would probably be fine. but a single 240 is not going to provide more than 300-400 watts of cooling, depending how how efficient it is. There are others here with a lot more knowledge about liquid cooling than I have... hopefully someone will speak up.
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post #5 of 9
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thanks i would go for a 360 rad with the room for push pull in the rad box

however i was thinking if i design a case to go with it, would designing a pc case with just 2 intake fans be ok or would i need to add a exhaust
i would have cut-outs for air to escape but would a fan help.
post #6 of 9
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Originally Posted by richie_2010 View Post

thanks i would go for a 360 rad with the room for push pull in the rad box

however i was thinking if i design a case to go with it, would designing a pc case with just 2 intake fans be ok or would i need to add a exhaust
i would have cut-outs for air to escape but would a fan help.

Depends on if you put blocks on everything in the PC... then you could probably get by with no fans.

If you are running any air type heatsinks, they will need some airflow. DDR3 ram doesn't run hot, but chipsets can. HDD's are much better off with some airflow for them also, as they can get hot, which will add heat to the case, and reduce HDD life.

As long as the air escapes efficiently, you might not need exhaust fans.. (but I prefer to have them myself. Low RPM fans are silent), and help to make sure there are no issues with stagnant, hot air remaining in the case.

Again, it depends on the design, and how the air flows.
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post #7 of 9
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i would use the two fans to get air to the chipset and the hdds and ill try and incorporate a small exhaust in there aswell.

ive got two designs that are the same for both air and wc but the air case dimensions would be 250 x 250 by 200mm and the wc case would be 200 by 220 by 140mm

thats using a full size psu and 2.5" ssds/hdds
Edited by richie_2010 - 4/6/14 at 10:02am
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i would use the two fans to get air to the chipset and the hdds and ill try and incorporate a small exhaust in there aswell.

ive got two designs that are the same for both air and wc but the air case dimensions would be 250 x 250 by 200mm and the wc case would be 200 by 220 by 140mm

thats using a full size psu and 2.5" ssds/hdds

Sounds interesting... please post some pics when you start getting it together. I am wondering.. with those dimensions, where is the 360 (360mm + ends) going to go?
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post #9 of 9
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its 2 separate items

one is a rad box with the rad pump and res
2nd is the pc case itself

im in the process of putting all the ideas onto paper and will try and get a mockup and proper designs done soon.
it will more likely be a mockup as drawing isn't my strong point.

i think ill 1st work on the rad box as rads fans n pumps dont really go obsolete as quick as motherboards ect do
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