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That's tough to answer. Keep in mind that I've read a lot, but I've never actually watercooled. That said, I've read more than my share on the subject. Besides the thickness of the rad and the fin density, it also depends on your loop, number of blocks, and the amount of rads too, which will determine just how slow you can run the fans. There are three types of rads for the most part. Thin rads that make up for the thinness with extra fins, thick rads that have less fins for silence but can't scale up as good, and thick rads with medium density that have good performance over a wide range. Of course there are the monster thickness ones, and the thick rads with dense fins, but for the most part that's it. As you can see there are many variables that affect everything else.

Black Ice SR-1s and Nemesis rads are built for low spinning fans and silence with decent but not perfect scale-ability. They may not perform as well as some rads over every range, but they are silent about it. Then you can add more rads to cool more blocks better. No question the Black Ice Nemesis rads will be quieter than the XSPC AX rads if all is equal. At least to a point. If I had ten AX rads I'm sure it would not matter either way and I would not have to spin up my fans as much to matter. Plus your choice on fans will also directly impact the sound and performance. AX rads are thin with high fin density so they are not the best silent running rad out there and there are better balanced rads. But if looks and space saving features is what you want and some noise is ok, they are perfect. Something like the UT60 is more balanced than all of these. But Black Ice has the build quality a notch higher and I like silence. So I'm a Black Ice fan.

But keep in mind I'm the Padawan Learner and not the Jedi Master on watercooling. But I'm a damn good Padawan smile.gif
Damn Neo. You know so much about watercooling and yet you haven't set yours up yet. When is your setup in the works? tongue.gif

And you are right about the SR-1s. I was originally going to pick the SR1s for the simple fact that they would be quiet, which is great; however, read some reviews and it states as you clearly pointed out that they are best when the fans pushing it are on low RPMs.

UT60s are something I am looking into, but I'm also eyeing the XSPC RX 360 / 240 rads. They seem to offer comparable performance to the UT60.

So, I made a revised snapshot of the items in the cart. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

Is there anything that I am missing or anymore suggestions? You have been a great help.
    
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I could go all day with suggestions really.

Off the top of my head, give the Bitspower Enhanced fittings a look. They are sweet looking. Primochill is good but they are new to the market so to speak with a lower rep but decent rep. Primochill acrylic tube isn't the most consistent from what I have read. I hate to say it but they have thickness variances or so I've read. They just have a vendor make it so it's not like I am putting Primochill down really. Get your tube here:

http://www.mcmaster.com/

http://www.mcmaster.com/#standard-plastic-hollow-tubing/=rfbdx5

They sell screws and bolts and nuts too.

If you get the Primochill fittings I would get the Black Nickel Brass top ones. They are so much more classy than aluminum top ones. You don't want aluminum in your loop but they say the aluminum will not touch the water. But your only protection is a single O-Ring. Just saying. Both from the aluminum top and for any leaks. BitsPower Enhanced fittings have two o rings. I see you did chose black nickel ones so good. Get an EK gpu blackplate for strength and looks.

Don't order the SR-1s unless you have to build today. The Black Ice Nemesis rads are like the next gen of rads from Black Ice coming any day now.

You may want to consider that acrylic tops are inherently weaker than acetel tops, so be careful on the pressure during installation or switch to acetel. On acetel you can strip the threads but the top will not crack from overtighening.

You don't have any pumps in your cart or a res. I'm sure you know that.

You can't use the shiny cover with the dual pump top. Bummer.

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I like the Aqualis XT as it is glass.



While that can be used as a pump top with an adapter its worse performance than running it separate to a product like this:

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Which you can buy with the pump already on it. And you can use the shiny cover.

Performance should be close to this one:

http://www.xtremerigs.net/2013/08/09/ek-x-top-d5-csq-rev-3/

Or you can use this, also works with the shiny cover, but I have not read on the pump top performance on this exact one:

http://www.ekwb.com/shop/reservoirs-and-acc/res-pump-combo/ek-d5/ek-d5-vario-x-res-140-incl-pump.html

See these reviews to see what I mean on bad combos (the integrated pump top worsens performance):

http://www.xtremerigs.net/2013/11/21/xspc-photon-reservoir-with-integrated-d5-vario-pump/

http://www.xtremerigs.net/2013/08/09/aquacomputer-d5-top/

Good performance for the EK dual D5 top. Note you want the one I linked you, the one meant for two pumps in the same loop. There is one for two pumps for two loops, avoid this. You wan't it all in one loop.

http://www.xtremerigs.net/2014/01/23/ek-dual-d5-top/

Pic of black ice nemesis rads:

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Run push pull if you can afford it as you can run the fans at a lower speed and get better performance. Well that't it for now I have to go on a road trip. PM me if you have any questions.
Edited by Neo Zuko - 4/6/14 at 5:57pm
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Done editing now.

Edit:

Actually, done now...
Edited by Neo Zuko - 4/6/14 at 5:56pm
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CoolingCoolingOSMonitor
EK Supremacy Clean CSQ All Nickel CPU Block Black Ice Nemesis GTX Rads Microsoft Windows 8.1 Pro 64 Bit OS Asus ROG Swift PG278Q G-Sync 27" Monitor 
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Corsair Cherry MX Red RGB KB, Harmony Smart KB Corsair AX1500i PSU CaseLabs Mercury S8 PC Case, Assessories Logitech G602 Mouse, T650 Touchpad 
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EK Supremacy Clean CSQ All Nickel CPU Block Black Ice Nemesis GTX Rads Microsoft Windows 8.1 Pro 64 Bit OS Asus ROG Swift PG278Q G-Sync 27" Monitor 
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