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ok, at least a 610 series, thanks.
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As an FX-6300 owner who loves this chip for all of what it has to offer a performance tuning enthusiast, It wouldn't be my first pick for a traditional "desktop PC" for a friend or family member unless they were specifically requesting an inexpensive performance tune-able rig for gaming or an inexpensive machine that could be used for for specialized workloads like running lots of VMs or other projects that leverage this architecture and instruction capabilities.

Assuming this build is a non gaming rig for office/email/web/youtube/research/etc. I would use the A8-6500 or i3-4130. Of the two, the i3-4130 would be my pick based on slightly better compute performance and efficiency in all CPU workloads, better video decoder technology, and quieter OEM cooler. The A8's advantages are more feature rich budget motherboards (more SATA ports etc) and slightly stronger GPU performance in openGL/DX API's (mostly gaming). I think the advantages of the i3 are a better match to the mainstream desktop PC, while the APU offers a better solution to budget gaming/server/workstation rigs that can take advantage of those other key features.

The i3-4130 costs about the same as an FX-6300, but includes an iGPU, so actually has a lower cost to implement. For many mainstream desktop uses the i3 is actually a bit faster than a stock clocked FX-6300 anyway.


Try not to get too hung up on core count. The architectures are really vastly different. I've got a quad core phone, doesn't mean it's faster than an i3.
     
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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i3-4330 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor ($124.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus VANGUARD B85 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: A-Data XPG V1.0 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($63.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial M500 240GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($119.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 360W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply ($62.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $521.93
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-04-06 15:24 EDT-0400)

Not sure what all you need in the $500 budget but if it's just the core of the machine, no software/keyboard/mouse/monitor then I would do something like the above. All great quality components and feature rich motherboard should make for a great desktop PC that will still be viable in 6+ years from now.
     
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If you're near a Microcenter, then the A10-7850K is priced pretty well, and even better if you get a CPU/MB combo. If not, the A10-7700 comes with a free copy of BF4 on Newegg, which you can sell to reduce the cost even further, and you'll have a much more powerful graphics than the i3-4130. My previous CPU was the i3-4130, and trying to do any light gaming with its igpu was painful.
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Yes I am close to a Microcenter and Fry's.

Mcdocod, thanks for the part picker compatability. I have a spare case and PSU, just gonna need to add a 1 tb WD Blue HDD and its gonna be under 500, awsome. So with the i3 they wont need a video card. Mostly going to watch movies or youtube, email, web surfing, old ppl games like solitare.
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Heck, if that's all you need, my girlfriend's computer uses an embedded Intel Celeron 1037U and we do nothing but watch Netflix and HBO at 1080p with her computer, and that'll be even more energy efficient than an i3. We then used the money we saved on an SSD.
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ah , my dad has a 2 core 2Ghz Celeron. Something is failing him, i think its his HDD, its partitioned with a tiny C drive. I really want to see if an SSD and WD blue will fix his issues, are SSD's compatable with MSI mATX intel boards running XP?
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How old is the Celeron? Mind you, our Celeron is one of the new embedded Celerons based on Haswell, so they are more powerful. As far as SSD compatibility, I would imagine if that motherboard has a SATA connection, then it should work. Maybe someone else can chime in on that.
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this celeron is like 4 years old, the stock cooler is on it I think, and its just a round looped aluminum coil with fan.
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Yea I think MC has both the i3-4130 and the A10-7850K for about $30 less than anywhere else.

For the machine that you have described. I believe the i3-4130 is better than Kaveri because the i3-4130 already has a fixed function hardware decoder with support for up to 4K video decoding. Kaveri's UDV4.2 does not support video resolution that high. So in 5+ years from now the i3 will be viable as content and our TVs/Monitors start transitioning to 4K. We're already seeing 4K monitors/TVs drop below the $1000 mark here and there, which means that within 5 years it's going to be pretty mainstream. We can already find youtube content up to 4K!
     
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