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post #31 of 45
Dude, listen up. If the only thing they'll be doing is watching 1080p videos and playing Solitaire, get them a A4 APU. Seriously, A Pentium D would probably be sufficient for them. Here's a build I threw together.

AMD A4-4000 ~$40
ASRock FM2A55M-VG3+ ~$40
be quiet! System Power 7 300W ~$35
A well reviewed 120GB SSD (~$70-$80) if they just want speed, Or a WD Blue 1TB if they need lots of storage.
The cheapest 4GB RAM kit available. There isn't really 'bad RAM' anymore, theyre mostly even manufactured by the same OEM.
Any mATX case you like, I own the Core 1000 and love the minimalstic asthetics of it.

The're you go. Probably around $250-$300. It's all they'll need for the next few years.
 
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post #32 of 45
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Originally Posted by 06yfz450ridr View Post

I agree if its just an every day pc grab a cheap graphics card, even a gt 210 will do fine and can be found for under 30 bucks some times.

Can anybody guess why the GT210 is a suitable choice of GPU for a desktop rig that will be used for internet/video browsing, but a GTX260 isn't?

Teachable moment here in the making.
     
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Oh and forgot to add, please don't use that monstrous WinXP. The support drops tomorrow. Install a simple Linux distro like Manjaro. Try it, it really isn't as hard as some make it out to be. If anything, Windows is a hall of a lot more of a pain in the ass to get working correctly.
 
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post #34 of 45
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Originally Posted by Gregory14 View Post

Yes I am close to a Microcenter and Fry's.

Mcdocod, thanks for the part picker compatability. I have a spare case and PSU, just gonna need to add a 1 tb WD Blue HDD and its gonna be under 500, awsome. So with the i3 they wont need a video card. Mostly going to watch movies or youtube, email, web surfing, old ppl games like solitare.

a nice laptop with 15 - 17 inch display will work.

hook up a spare monitor if you have one. at that budget you might snag one with WiDi.
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post #35 of 45
GT 210. I'll rather have nothing. That's the worst GPU known to man. It's not even worth calling a GPU!
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GT 210. I'll rather have nothing. That's the worst GPU known to man. It's not even worth calling a GPU!

Actually, as a VIDEO card it is wonderful. Has the same VP4 feature-set as my GTX460. Can't be used for any sort of real-time 3D work, but as a VIDEO card, it is quite good considering its age.
     
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post #37 of 45
Why buy something like a GT 210 when the GPU in an APU is likely more powerful and cut's costs. Seems like a no brainer here.
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CMI86,
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212 Evo custom painted and lapped push pull wit...

Is that blue paint or is it anodized on your 212 ?
    
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post #39 of 45
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FM1 is badly outdated for any modern HTPC / PC that will be used to view current and future video from media (like blueray) or the Internet. The llano GPU is based on redwood (HD5570 etc) with UVD 2.2.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UVD

Note the features introduced in UVD3 that are missing from 2.2. AMD is now on 4.2 with Kavari and that still falls short of what Haswell/Keplar/Maxwell have support for.

Of course, to make matters worse, CPU performance on llano is comparable to mobile from 4 years ago. Not enough CPU grunt to software decode any of its missing support. Selling someone a llano, or recommending it, at this time, is no different than recommending that someone build a machine with an Stars based AM3 Athlon II and a Radeon HD5550. That's garage sale / thrift store hardware at this point. Probably be able to start pulling stuff like that from dumpsters in a few years. It really is bordering on garbage class.

Your facts are wrong The FM1 desk top apu runs the HD 64** or HD 65** gpu and All models are DIRECTX® Version 11 and UVD 3

http://www.amd.com/en-us/products/processors/desktop/a-series-apu#

I run my HTPC FM1 3670k @ 3Ghz on a factory cooler and have had no problem with the blueray player or streming (NetFlicks) @ 1080p. If you did run a mobile 4 core @ 3Ghzthe the amount of heat you have. For a home pc to surff the web and watch movies with and not spend over 150.00 for apu/mobo/ram its very hard to beat
post #40 of 45
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CMI86,
Is that blue paint or is it anodized on your 212 ?

Just painted with a napa auto paint "atomic blue" it's a color from an 08 civic si. My GPU shroud is also painted to match.
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