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Hello everyone,

I've been wondering if I should sell my motherboard and CPU and buy a new z87 motherboard.

I have a Sabertooth z77 and an I5 3570K overclocked to 4.5ghz running perfectly stable at around 38º C on idle and not more than 60ºC when loaded 100%.

What I'm trying to update now is the video card, I'm trying to sell mine to get a GTX 780ti because I really want the best single video card of the moment.

A friend of mine has the same cpu and motherboard together with a Zotac 780ti OC edition and it runs great , I have seen it and that's the card I want.

I use the computer for gaming, internet browsing and normal use, the actual heavy load comes from games.

What do you think I should do? Should I get the 780ti and keep my cpu until DDR4 comes out sometime next year and then upgrade to its corresponding gen of intel CPU's?

I know the video card makes the difference in gaming and there are people still playing with a 2500k.

What I want is to be able to play any game which comes out this year, so is it worth spending money now in z87 or is it better to save it for the next gen considering I already have a capable cpu?

Thanks a lot in advance!
 
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Really if you don't need the Extra PCI-E Lanes, better QuickSync, more SATA3 and USB 3.0 Ports.
I would say stick with it. I'm also on an i7 3770 with a UD5H and it is coping really well.
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I would never sell a i5 3570k these days and the reason for that is you will gain very little performance in games if any at all running a single card. A clocked i5 3570k is on pair with a clocked i5 4670k if not even higher due to i5 4670k generally OC less. If you are gaming, you will probably gain more performance in games in terms of fps by adding a better gpu than getting the next generation i5 and ddr4 memory. And by that time those are released the 780ti is alreaddy old. I would upgrade to get better gaming performance, and you dont even have to get the 780ti, r9 290 are getting cheaper these days some people say, and I would get one of those. A OC r9 290 is equal to a 780Ti in terms of performance. The only real performance boost you would get would be if you would get a 6 core intel i7 paired with two or more high end gpus in a game that supports multicore. I would get a better gpu and dont think about upgrading for 2+ years, meanwhile you can save money. Your motherboard is also kinda good, would be shame to change it.

Thing is, most games dont require too much to get around 60 fps on reasonable high settings and you dont need more unless you run 120hz screen and if you do that fps is more important than good graphics.
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I usually skip over the first generation of a new technology (Haswell-E and DDR4) or at the very least, wait a few months and make sure there aren't any glaring issues with the platform. Haswell-E is definitely tempting with its 8-core processors but as is said time and time again, the additional cores are pointless if you aren't able to utilize them.

For what you said you do with your computer (gaming, internet browsing and normal use), that 3570K is the perfect chip. You could spend 3-4K on a full blown X79 system with a $1000 4960X processor and you might lose a frame or two in your games over your current setup (won't use more than 4 cores / threads while gaming and 4.5 GHz is a nice overclock for Ivy Bridge).

It sounds like you're on the right track with a video card upgrade. A new video card will give you the most noticeable performance boost in your games (assuming you're maxing out your current video card).

Intel really hasn't released anything worth upgrading to since Sandy Bridge. At this rate, I wouldn't be surprised if you get another 5 years out of that 3570K.
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Go biggie or go home....to me smile.gif.
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DO NOT UPGRADE THAT CPU!!!!


Spend the money you save on graphics and ssd goodness....

you can get 480gb drives for $220 right now!!!

and that Zotac 780ti AMP! will help WAAAAAAY more than any DDR4 ever hoped to
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I would never sell a i5 3570k these days and the reason for that is you will gain very little performance in games if any at all running a single card. A clocked i5 3570k is on pair with a clocked i5 4670k if not even higher due to i5 4670k generally OC less. If you are gaming, you will probably gain more performance in games in terms of fps by adding a better gpu than getting the next generation i5 and ddr4 memory. And by that time those are released the 780ti is alreaddy old. I would upgrade to get better gaming performance, and you dont even have to get the 780ti, r9 290 are getting cheaper these days some people say, and I would get one of those. A OC r9 290 is equal to a 780Ti in terms of performance. The only real performance boost you would get would be if you would get a 6 core intel i7 paired with two or more high end gpus in a game that supports multicore. I would get a better gpu and dont think about upgrading for 2+ years, meanwhile you can save money. Your motherboard is also kinda good, would be shame to change it.

Thing is, most games dont require too much to get around 60 fps on reasonable high settings and you dont need more unless you run 120hz screen and if you do that fps is more important than good graphics.

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Originally Posted by ShoehornHands View Post

I usually skip over the first generation of a new technology (Haswell-E and DDR4) or at the very least, wait a few months and make sure there aren't any glaring issues with the platform. Haswell-E is definitely tempting with its 8-core processors but as is said time and time again, the additional cores are pointless if you aren't able to utilize them.

For what you said you do with your computer (gaming, internet browsing and normal use), that 3570K is the perfect chip. You could spend 3-4K on a full blown X79 system with a $1000 4960X processor and you might lose a frame or two in your games over your current setup (won't use more than 4 cores / threads while gaming and 4.5 GHz is a nice overclock for Ivy Bridge).

It sounds like you're on the right track with a video card upgrade. A new video card will give you the most noticeable performance boost in your games (assuming you're maxing out your current video card).

Intel really hasn't released anything worth upgrading to since Sandy Bridge. At this rate, I wouldn't be surprised if you get another 5 years out of that 3570K.

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DO NOT UPGRADE THAT CPU!!!!


Spend the money you save on graphics and ssd goodness....

you can get 480gb drives for $220 right now!!!

and that Zotac 780ti AMP! will help WAAAAAAY more than any DDR4 ever hoped to

Thank you all for your replies. I'm sorry for the late response.

I think the best choice is to get a Zotac 780ti. The way i see it, the best games from this year haven't been released yet but I wanna be prepared for when they do.

I also want a new SSD but I can't afford all of it together.

I'll wait for the next gen of chipsets and cpu's to see if DDR4 is released by then, I don't really think I need a cpu right now after all.


Are there any rumors or does anyone know if DDR4 will supposedly come with the next intel gen?? or is it just too early to talk about that now?
 
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Why think about ddr4 anyways? I doubt it will give as much boost in games and by that time it does the 780ti will be dated and you will most likely build a whole new system. Get the 780ti and later on a ssd, it will work excelent in games long time. Unless you are motivated to save money far ahead, you can get a used gpu and ssd, or play at lower settings for quite some time.
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